[Call Board of Commissioners Meeting to Order: Chair Dranttel]
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[Approval of Agenda]
THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND WE HAVE AN ADDITION, CORRECT, MANDY?>> CORRECT. THERE IS A REQUEST TO ADD AGENDA ITEM FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR A CYBERSECURITY ASSESSMENT AND CONSULTING SERVICES.
>> WE'LL SLIDE THAT IN RIGHT BEFORE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UPDATE.
THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. SORRY.
>> I MOVE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[Approval of Consent Agenda:]
>> I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
[Public Appearances]
>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC APPEARANCE TODAY? YEAH. GOOD MORNING.
YEAH. RIGHT UP TO THE TABLE AND THE MICROPHONE, SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
WE GENERALLY LIMIT OUR PUBLIC APPEARANCES TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
>> YEAH, MY HEARING'S NOT THE BEST.
[NOISE] WELL, I OWN AND OPERATE SAWMILL CAMPGROUNDS AND ALL MY NORTHLAKE.
>> SIR, I THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME.
>> DO YOU WANT TO USE THIS DENNIS, THAT YOU CAN HELP TO HELP WITH THE HEARING TOO.
>> CAN YOU HEAR US NOW, DENNIS?
>> [NOISE] I OWN AND OPERATE A SAWMILL CAMPGROUNDS DOWN IN NORTH [INAUDIBLE].
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I STOPPED OVER TO PLANNING AND ZONING TO APPLY FOR TWO LARGE BY CAMPGROUNDS BY EIGHT SITES.
MY AGE AS ALL I GOT TO DO BUT WHILE I WAS THERE, I WAS ADVISED, WELL, HOW MANY SITES COULD I DO? WELL, I AM VIBRATOR THAT I HAVE THERE.
I COULD DO UP TO 24 MORE SITES.
ALL OF THE DEVICE WHY NOT DISPLAY FOR 24 MORE SITES? WELL, IT SOUNDED GOOD TO ME BUT I ONLY CARE TO DO EIGHT BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO 24 MORE, FINE.
BUT IT GOT ME IN TROUBLE DOWN THE ROAD LATER BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT GOT PASSED DOWN THROUGH THE SYSTEM, I WAS GOING TO BUILD 24 MORE SITES.
WELL, I NEVER PLANNED ON GOING TO BUILD 24 MORE SITES, I JUST PLANNED ON BUILDING MY EIGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT WATER, SEWER, POWER OVER ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAMPGROUNDS AND THEN ESSENTIALLY JUST FIT IN TO ONE ROW.
THAT'S ALL I CARE TO DO, IT'S JUST EIGHT MORE SITES AND THEN WHOEVER BUYS ME OUT OR MY SON, DAUGHTER OR GRANDCHILD TAKEOVER, FINE.
THEY CAN EXPAND IT BUT NOT ME ANYMORE.
IF THEY WENT THROUGH, FINE, UNTIL I GET DOWN TO THE GREEN ONE.
THE TIME HE GOT THE INFORMATION, I WAS TO BUILD 24 MORE SITES.
WELL, I NEVER WAS GOING TO BUT I GOT TURNED INTO THAT.
THEN HE SAID I NEED A RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
YEAH, 48 MORE CARS JUST IN AND OUT, [NOISE] JUST FINISH BY WHEN? JUST ONCE A DAY AND I TOLD HIM I ONLY WANTED JUST EIGHT MORE SITES.
WELL, HE TOLD ME, LITERATELY BLUNTLY TERMS THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO COME DOWN.
[NOISE] I SAID ALL I WANT IS EIGHT MORE SITES, WHICH WILL ONE DAY BE 16 MORE CARS.
WELL THAT STAGGERING EFFECT OF TRAFFIC AT THIS SPEED,
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BECAUSE THEY ALL DON'T COME AND GO AT THE SAME TIME.I CALLED THE STATE AND AN ACCOUNT AS ALL FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO WAS 1,900 CARS A DAY.
WHATEVER THAT MEANS, A THRESHOLD, THE ROAD IS ONLY 1,500.
WELL, SCH ENGINEERING TOLD ME LAST WEEK THAT CORNER OF THE ROAD HAS GONE 1,400 BECAUSE FIVE-GALLON GAS SLOWED EVERYBODY DOWN.
NO, PEOPLE JUST DON'T DRIVE LIKE THEY USED TOO.
I CAN SEE THAT IN GOLF COURSE TOO WHERE THE GOLF COURSE USED TO BE FULL OF CARS NOW IS PROBABLY HALF FULL OF CARS.
THE TRAFFIC WENT WAY DOWN AND WHEN I SIT ON MY FRONT POUCH, I CAN SEE THAT TOO I JUST WEIGHED DOWN AND THEN AT NIGHTTIME WHEN JUST EVERYBODY LEAVES THE GOLF COURSE TOWARD DARK, THEY ALL LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME AND IT'S WAY DOWN.
I DON'T THINK EIGHT MORE SITES IF EVERYBODY GOT UP EVERY DAY AND IF I BEFORE, I ONLY HAD 16 CARS AND LIKE I SAID, THEY ALL DON'T COME AND GO AT THE SAME TIME AND I DON T THINK 16 CARS MORE WOULDN'T EVEN BRING UP THE THRESHOLD HARDLY.
ALL I REALLY WANTED THE PERMISSION TO PUT MY EIGHT SITES IN AND GET THINGS READY FOR THE NEXT OWNER BE IT MY RELATIVES OR NOT OR ELSE IT WOULD HAVE MORE SYLLABLE DID MONEY-WISE.
>> MR. MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YOU'RE ASKING THE COUNTY BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE YOUR REQUEST, BUT DOESN'T THIS NEED TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSION IDEA BEFORE IT MOVES TO THE COUNTY BOARD? I ASK A GENERAL QUESTION.
>> YOU UNDERSTAND, MR. MICHAELS, THAT REQUESTS LIKE THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF NICOLLET COUNTY.
YOU'RE MAKING US AWARE OF YOUR POSITION TODAY BUT HAVE YOU BEEN ADVISED ABOUT THAT?
>> WHAT IS THE COUNTY BOARD OR WHO THEY DON'T SEE IT?
>> I THOUGHT THIS WAS A COUNTY BOARD.
>> IT IS. MR. MICHAEL THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO CAN HELP EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND ARE PROBABLY BETTER TO TALK WITH THEM.
MAYBE YOU PROBABLY CAN DIRECT MR. MICHAELSON AND MR. GREENWOOD IS HERE AS WELL.
WE'RE ENCOURAGING YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT THE PROCESS TO GET TO THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT, WE'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM YOU BUT THEY'RE THE FOLKS WHO CAN HELP DIRECT YOU.
>> RAISE YOUR HANDS, PLEASE. [LAUGHTER]
[NOISE] NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC WORKS.
[Public Works]
SETH, YOU ARE THE GUY OF THE DAY. [NOISE]MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF, SEVERAL ITEMS FROM PUBLIC WORKS TODAY.
THE FIRST BEAM TO CONSIDER FINAL PAYMENT FOR PROJECT SP-52612008.
THIS PROJECT WAS THE COUNTY ROAD 12TH GRADE RAISE AND RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND READY FOR THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE FINAL PAYMENT.
THE FINAL PAYMENT AMOUNT WOULD BE $60,033.62, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE FINAL CONTRACT VALUE $5,557,862.12.
WE'RE GETTING FINALLY VERY CLOSE TO COMPLETELY BEING DONE WITH COUNTY ROAD 12 PROJECT.
EVEN ONCE FINAL PAYMENT IS COMPLETE TO THE CONTRACTOR,
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THERE'S STILL SOME FINAL STEPS THAT MY OFFICE HAS TO WORK THROUGH.ONCE FINAL PAYMENT IS MADE AND WE HAVE THOSE FINAL VALUES FOR ALL OUR DIFFERENT FUNDING EXPENDITURES, WE'RE ABLE THEN TO REQUEST THOSE FINAL PAYMENTS FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY IN [INAUDIBLE] STATE AID FOR THE RETAINAGE THAT THEY HOLD ON THOSE FINAL FUNDS.
NOW, THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR HICCUP WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY DISASTER PROJECTS.
IT AFFECTS THE COUNTY ROAD 12.
IT'S AFFECTING COUNTY ROAD 14 HILL PROJECT AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE COUNTY ROAD 21 SLOPE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEVELOPING PLANS AND [INAUDIBLE].
FOR THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY DISASTER FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED, THERE'S A 20 PERCENT MATCH REQUIRED.
THAT 20 PERCENT MATCH IS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM THESE FUNDS CALLED CHAPTER 12 FUNDS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR HELPING TO FUND DISASTER PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.
THOSE FUNDS FLOW THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHEN YOU READ THE LAW, THOSE PROJECTS FUNDED THROUGH FEDERAL HIGHWAY DISASTER PROJECTS SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THESE CHAPTER 12 FUNDS.
WHAT DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY IS TELLING [INAUDIBLE] IS NO.
WE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE FUNDS.
THERE IS A SPOT GOING BETWEEN MEMBERS AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ON GETTING ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS.
WE HAVE ENLISTED THE HELP OF AMC.
THERE'S OTHER COUNTIES INVOLVED WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER DISASTER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
A LETTER WAS GENERATED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEERS ASSOCIATION AND AMC AND SENT TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO TRY TO GET HELP FROM THE GOVERNOR TO SETTLE THIS.
WHAT THIS MEANS FOR NICOLLET COUNTY IN THESE CHAPTER 12 FUNDS FOR THE EXPENSES THAT WE'VE INCURRED ALREADY AND THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES AND MATCH THAT WE WILL NEED FOR COUNTY ROAD 12, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST $1.6 MILLION THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO NICOLLET COUNTY FROM THESE CHAPTER 12 FUNDS.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND TRY TO GET RESOLUTION TO THIS.
BUT IF THE PROCESS GETS STUCK, I MAY BE ENLISTING YOUR GUISES HELPED TO REACH OUT TO HER LOCAL LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR TO GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THIS BECAUSE NICOLLET COUNTY CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM $1.6 MILLION IN CHAPTER 12 FUNDING, THAT VERY MUCH APPEARS THAT WE SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR.
THAT'S JUST A LITTLE NUANCE WITH WITH THESE FEDERAL DISASTER PROJECTS AND SOME WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH.
BUT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM, I'M LOOKING FOR THE COUNTY BOARD TO ACCEPT THIS PROJECT AS COMPLETE AND AUTHORIZE THIS FINAL PAYMENT TO MATTHEW WITTS CONSTRUCTION.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
>> DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER KOLARS?
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
OUT OF THE 5.5 MILLION THAT IT TOOK TO RECONSTRUCT THIS HIGHWAY AND BRING US OUT OF THE WATER, DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF WHAT THE NICOLLET COUNTY EXPOSURE WAS TO THIS?
>> YOU'RE ASKING THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE USED.
I GAVE SARAH MY DETAILED FINAL PAYMENT INFORMATION.
I CAN GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS.
>> JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY, I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYMORE.
IT'S TAKEN SO MANY YEARS TO GET THIS THING DONE.
>> ACTUALLY, I THINK IT MOVES PRETTY FAST CONSIDERING THE PROJECT.
>> YEAH, I'LL GO FROM NOT HAVING ANY DESIGN OR ANY PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE MOVE THIS [INAUDIBLE] AS FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TIE IN ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PLACED ON. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I GUESS I WAS REFERRING TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
>> IT'S A WETLAND, YOU DON'T MOVE TO [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH WETLANDS.
>> WE USED ABOUT $2.6 MILLION OF COUNTY STATED REGULAR CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, AND A LOT OF THOSE FUNDS WERE EXPENDED ON THE AREA OUTSIDE THE AREA THAT FLOODED.
WE TIED ON SOME ADDITIONAL GRADING WORKS SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ROAD SHUTDOWN.
WE EXPANDED OUR PROJECT SOME FOR THAT.
I RECEIVED ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 600,000 IN
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STATE AID DISASTER FUNDS TO HELP WITH THE GRADE RAISE AREA.WE RECEIVED A LITTLE OVER 1.6 MILLION IN FEDERAL HIGHWAY DISASTER DOLLARS AND THAT WAS SOLELY ATTRIBUTED TO THE FLOOD AREA.
THE CHAPTER 12 FUNDS THAT WERE WRESTLING OVER AND TRYING TO GET ACCESS TO, WE SHOULD RECEIVE ABOUT 360,000 FOR THIS PROJECT FROM THAT FUNDING SOURCE IF WE CAN GET ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS.
THEN I WAS ALSO ABLE TO SECURE A STATE PARK ROAD ACCOUNT GRANT TO PUT TOWARDS THE OVERALL RECONSTRUCTION OF THAT 2.3 MILES BECAUSE THIS ROAD SERVES TO WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREAS ALONG COUNTY ROAD 12.
WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR MONEY FROM THOSE ACCOUNTS.
I WOULD SAY WE DID VERY WELL IN GETTING OUTSIDE FUNDING TO FUND THE BULK OF THIS PROJECT.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT RECAP AND I WANT TO ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS TO FIND THOSE OTHER FUNDS TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME. IT'S BEEN QUITE THE PROJECT.
>> SHE'S A PRETTY SMOOTH TRACK FROM 2112 INTERSECTION EAST THROUGH THE LAKES.
TAKE IT TO THE OTHER SIDE, IT IS A NICE PROJECT. IT LOOKS REALLY NICE.
>> HOPEFULLY I'LL NEVER GO UNDERWATER AGAIN.
>> IF IT DOES, WE'RE IN BIG TROUBLE.
>> WE'RE IN TROUBLE, AREN'T WE?
>> WE BELIEVE WE HAVEN'T BUILT AT THE SHOULDER EDGE, IT SHOULD BE TWO-AND-A-HALF FEET HIGHER THAN WHERE THE WATER WOULD NATURALLY RUN OUT OF THAT BASIN.
IN THEORY, IT SHOULD NEVER FLOOD, AND IF IT DOES BIG TROUBLES.
>> IT WOULD TAKE A SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> SECOND ITEM IS TO CONSIDER FINAL PAYMENT FOR PROJECT SP-52613021.
THIS WAS FOR THE FACADE 13 CONCRETE OVERLAY PROJECT THAT WE COMPLETED FROM TRUNK HIGHWAY 99 DOWN TO 506 STREET, CRAWL INCORPORATED DID THAT PROJECT FOR US LAST YEAR.
THIS WAS ALSO A PARTIALLY FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT, BUT THESE WEREN'T FEDERAL DISASTER FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT.
THESE ARE WHAT I WOULD SAY OUR NORMAL FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE GET ACCESS TO ON A PERIODIC BASIS.
FOR NICOLLET COUNTY, WE MAY SEE FEDERAL FUNDS OF THIS SORT, PROBABLY EVERY 5-7 YEARS.
THERE WAS ABOUT $1.7 MILLION OF FEDERAL HIGHWAY FUNDS THAT WENT INTO THIS PROJECT.
THERE WAS ALSO ABOUT $172,000 OF [INAUDIBLE] CRYSTAL FUNDS.
THOSE CRYSTAL FUNDS WERE FROM THE FIRST COVID BILLS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PASSED.
THERE WAS A CERTAIN ALLOTMENT THAT CAME TO MINNESOTA THROUGH [INAUDIBLE], AND [INAUDIBLE], DEVELOPED A FORMULA IN EVERY COUNTY, AND STATE AID CITY RECEIVED AN ALLOTMENT OF SOME OF THOSE FEDERAL COVID DOLLARS.
WHEN THOSE CAME DOWN, COUNTY ROAD 13 WAS ALREADY THROUGH THE FEDERAL PROCESS.
IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO EXPAND FEDERAL FUNDS ON.
I APPLIED THAT 170 SOME THOUSAND OF THOSE CRYSTAL FUNDS THROUGH THIS PROJECT, JUST WHICH WOULD JUST DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF OUR STATE AID REGULAR FUNDS THAT WE HAD TO INVEST IN THIS PROJECT.
LOOKING FOR THE BOARD TO ACCEPT THIS PROJECT AS COMPLETE UNAUTHORIZED FINAL PAYMENT TO CRAWL, THE FINAL PAYMENT AMOUNT IS $49,137.27.
THE FINAL OVERALL CONTRACT VALUE WAS $4,913,726.84.
THAT WAS A STATE CONCRETE PAVING AWARD WINNER PROJECT ON TOP OF IT.
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL ON WHAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE NICEST ROADWAYS AND NICOLLET COUNTY.
>>SECOND AND A QUICK QUESTION.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A CONCRETE AWARD? WHAT IS IT ABOUT 13?
>>I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES. GOOD DESIGN AND PLANNING.
IT TAKES THEM AN EXCELLENT CONTRACTOR TO DO EXCELLENT WORK AND CRAWL BIT OF AN AMAZING JOB.
>>WHAT WOULD WE NOTICE? WHAT'S THE AWARD-WINNING FEATURES? WOULD WE BE ABLE TO NOTICE SOMETHING AS A USER?
>>IT'S SMOOTH. IT'S EXTREMELY SMOOTH,
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AND SO AS PART OF THESE PAVING CONTRACTS, IF IT'S A BITUMINOUS BLACK TOP PAVEMENT CONTRACT OR A CONCRETE PAVING TYPE PROJECTS.THERE ARE INCENTIVES BUILT INTO THE SPECIFICATION.
IF YOU PAVE A ROAD EXTREMELY SMOOTH AND THERE'S DIFFERENT GRADATIONS TO THAT SCALE ON THE CONTRACTOR CAN WIN ADDITIONAL MONIES FOR PAVEMENT IT'S SO SMOOTH BECAUSE SMOOTH PAYMENT EQUALS LONGER LONGEVITY.
IF YOUR TIRES GO DOWN THE ROAD, AND ROAD IS SMOOTH AND THEY'RE NOT POUNDING, YOUR PAVEMENT WILL HOLD UP LONG OR IF IT'S NOT SMOOTH AND YOUR TIRES ARE CHATTERING, THAT'S A CONSTANT POUNDING ON THAT PAVEMENT WHICH YOU CAN START GETTING PREMATURE CRACKING AND WHATNOT.
THAT'S WHY THEY PAY INCENTIVE FOR SMOOTHNESS.
WE ALSO ON CONCRETE PAVING PAY INCENTIVES FOR QUALITY OF THE CONCRETE MIX AND THE QUALITY OF THE AGGREGATE, THE ROCKS THAT THEY USE IN THE MIX AND CRAWL, MAXIMIZE THE INCENTIVES ON ALL OF THIS.
THOSE MIXED TYPE INCENTIVES, THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND YOUR CELLS AREN'T GOING TO KNOW WHY JUST DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, BUT USING HIGH-QUALITY AGGREGATES, PAVING THAT CONCRETE WITH A VERY LOW WATER CEMENT RATIO, ALL EQUALS LONGER LONGEVITY, WHICH WILL PAY US IN THE LONG RUN.
>>AS PART OF THE SUBMISSION, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL THAT DATA AS PART OF THE AWARD PROCESS AND THEY LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S PART OF SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT THEY LOOK AT.
>>TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER MORROW QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A ROADWAY, COUNTY ROAD THROUGH THE CONCRETE IS A 35,40,50 YEARS?
>>WELL, THE DESIGN METHODOLOGY WE USE IS BASED FOR A CONCRETE THICKNESS AND OVERLAY LIKE WE DID ON 13 IS 30 YEARS.
I FULLY EXPECT WILL GET QUITE A FEW MORE YEARS THAN JUST 30 YEARS OUT OF THAT PAYMENT.
BUT THE DESIGN METHODOLOGY IS SET FOR 30-YEAR LIFESPAN.
IF WE WERE DOING A THINNER CONCRETE OVERLAY THAN WHAT WE DID OUT THERE, YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT DESIGN METHODOLOGY OF A 20-YEAR LIFESPAN, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA OF THE CONCRETE PAVING THAT'S BEING DONE ON THE COUNTY SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THE COUNTIES ARE GETTING A LOT MORE YEARS OF LIFE OUT OF THOSE PAVEMENTS THAN WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL JUST DESIGN METHODOLOGY.
OLMSTED COUNTY, THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES IN THE STATE TO DO TRUE CONCRETE OVERLAYS.
I BELIEVE THAT FIRST PAYMENT MIGHT HAVE WENT 30 TO 40 YEARS BEFORE THEY EVEN DID ANY APPRECIABLE MAJOR MAINTENANCE ON THAT HIGHWAY.
WE'RE SEEING GOOD PERFORMANCE OUT THERE ON THESE.
[LAUGHTER] ANYWAY, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR SETH ON THIS FINAL PAYMENT? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>>ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER MENDOTA TURNED BACK AGREEMENT 1048520, AND THERE'S A CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION.
THE RESOLUTION JUST AUTHORIZES THE BOARD CHAIR AND THE ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
THIS TURN BACK AGREEMENT REVOLVES AROUND THE MENDOTA TRUNK HIGHWAY 14 EXPANSION PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON FROM NEW HOME TO NICOLLET.
AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, MEN DIED IS CONSTRUCTING SOME NEW ALIGNMENTS OF [INAUDIBLE] ROAD 12,24 AND 37.
IN THE PROJECT IS ALL SAID AND DONE, ACCEPTS THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
THERE'S CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THOSE THREE COUNTY ROAD ROUTES THAT WILL NEED TO BE TURNED BACK TO THE FULL JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES.
IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT IN YOUR PACKET, AND IF YOU GO TOWARDS THE BACK, THERE ARE MAPS THAT SHOW THOSE EXACT TURNED BACK AREAS OF [INAUDIBLE] 37,12 AND 24 AND THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
NOW YOU MAY ASK YOURSELVES, WHY DOESN'T THE RED EXTEND COMPLETELY THROUGH THE INTERCHANGES? WELL, IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE SHARED RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, AND THE STATE RETAINS THE JURISDICTIONAL CONTROL OVER THEIR RAMPS IN LOOPS AND THE BRIDGES, BUT THERE ARE SHARED MAINTENANCE COMPONENTS WHERE THE COUNTY WILL BE PLOWING SNOW AND DOING CRACK FILLINGS STUFF THROUGH THE INTERCHANGE AREA.
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THE INTERCHANGE AREAS AND THOSE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN LAID OUT AND AGREED TO IN AN AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY BOARD HAS ALREADY APPROVED EARLIER.THAT WAS THE CO-OPERATIVE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT THAT WE APPROVE SOME TIME AGO.
THAT'S WHERE WE AUTHORIZE THE PAYMENT TO THE STATE FOR OUR COST SHARE FOR THESE THREE SEGMENTS AND THE CORRESPONDING INTERCHANGES ARE BUILT AS PART OF THAT.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE AGREEMENTS, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR THE BOARD TODAY TO APPROVE THE TURN BACK AGREEMENT THAN THE CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION.
>>THANK YOU. DO HAVE A SECOND.
>>I MEAN, THAT I'M SURE IT'S BEEN MY GOOD FORTUNE TO BE INVOLVED WITH TRANSPORTATION FOR A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS.
THE ONE THING THAT I COULD OBSERVE IS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN NICOLLET COUNTY AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA LEAVES THESE LAST TEN YEARS HAS BEEN TERRIFIC.
IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT COME UP, BOTH SIDES, LOOK AT THEM AND THEY TRIED TO RESOLVE THEM, I THINK WE CAN SAY WITH GOOD FAITH.
>>37 IS THE TOWNSHIP ROAD ON THE FAR WEST END THAT COMES DOWN UNDER 14.
>>37 COMES OUT OF NEW [INAUDIBLE].
>>THE TOWNSHIP ROAD NOW CONNECTED TO 14 FURTHER TO THE NORTH, NORTHWEST OF WHERE 37 COMES AT NOW, WITH THE INTERCHANGE BEING BUILT.
THAT TOWNSHIP ROAD FROM THE NORTH AS BEING REALIGNED TO COME INTO THE INTERCHANGE AND THEN TO THAT NORTHERLY ROUNDABOUT.
>>THAT INTERCHANGE HAS A OVERPASS OR DOES THAT ONE JUST HAVE THE ROUNDABOUTS? NOW THAT HAS AN OVERPASS?
>>37 WILL GO OVER HIGHWAY 14 IN THIS AREA.
THEN 12 AND 24, HIGHWAY 14, WE'LL GO OVER 12 AND 24 AT THAT LOCATION.
>>THAT IS PART OF YOUR PLAN WHEN YOU FOLKS YEAH.
>>IS THAT LIKE THE SAVAGE THING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
>>IT'S MORE LIKE THE NICOLLET THING.
>>IT'S MORE LIKE NICOLLET.. AT LEAST THE 37 ONE IS A LOT LIKE THE NICOLLET.
TOPOGRAPHY DICTATED AND JUST HOW THOSE HIGHWAY WHO WENT OVER WHO?
>>THERE WASN'T ROOM FOR [INAUDIBLE] WELL, THERE WAS ROOM FOR [INAUDIBLE] IN THERE BUT FELT IT WAS NOT THE SAFEST.
>>NOT FOR THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT WE WERE SEEING THAT THE COUNTY ROAD THE MAJOR COUNTY ROAD INTERSECTIONS CORRECT.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? BEING THAT IS A RESOLUTION WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> AS MENTIONED HERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE, JUST A GENERAL 14 UPDATE. HOW ARE THINGS GOING?
>> I THINK THEY'RE GOING WELL, I HAVEN'T TALKED DIRECTLY TO THE DOT HERE REAL RECENTLY, BUT I KNOW THAT THINGS ARE FULLY UNDERWAY AND A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN THE CITY OF CARTLAND.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE INTERSECTION OF ROAD 14 OR ROAD 24 UPGRADED AND DONE AND OPEN BACK TO LOCAL TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S ONE AREA THAT THEY'RE REALLY CONCENTRATING ON.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY WORKING ON GEOTECHNICAL TYPE WORK.
BRINGING IN THE APPROACH FILLS FOR THE BRIDGE ABUTMENTS AND WHATNOT BECAUSE THERE'S POOR SOILS IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SURCHARGE AND LET THAT MATERIAL SETTLE OUT BEFORE THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR BUILDING.
BUT IT'S ON MY LIST TO SCHEDULE A VISIT WITH MEN THAT THEY OFFERED ANYTIME I WANT TO GO OUT AND TAKE A TOUR OF THE PROJECT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO THAT.
IT JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO TAKE THEM OFF ON THAT?
>> NO. IF WE FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH THAT I'M SURE FOR ROAD TOUR THIS FALL, IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, MAYBE THERE COULD BE A PIT STOP SOMEPLACE TO GET A BETTER VIEW, RIGHT?
>> I DON'T THINK SO. FOR $3 MILLION, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME FREE TICKETS FOR A VISIT.
>> NEXT ONE, [INAUDIBLE] MASTER AGREEMENTS.
>> YES. NEXT TIME CONSIDER MANKATO MASTERY PARTNERSHIP CONTRACT AND THERE'S ALSO A CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION.
THERE IS A COPY OF THE CONTRACT AND RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET.
THERE IS A CURRENT ADOPTED MANKATO MASTER PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BETWEEN MANKATO AND THE COUNTY, BUT IT'S SET TO EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
THEY TYPICALLY UPDATE AND REDO THESE PARTNERSHIP CONTRACTS PROBABLY EVERY 4-5 YEARS.
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THEY DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TYPICALLY NO STATE LAW CHANGES AND WHATNOT THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED IN THESE AGREEMENTS.WHAT THIS AGREEMENT REALLY ALLOWS US AND THE COUNTY TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO REQUEST AND PURCHASE VARIOUS SERVICES FROM EACH OTHER THROUGH WORK ORDER CONTRACTS.
NOW, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE CAN PARTNER ON IS VERY BASIC AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE A WORK ORDER CONTRACT AND WE UTILIZE THIS ON A VERY ROUTINE BASIS.
AS WE DO OUR PROJECTS, OF COURSE WE'RE DOING MATERIAL TESTING.
WE'RE TAKING CONCRETE SAMPLES, AGGREGATE SAMPLES, BITUMINOUS SAMPLES, ALL THAT STUFF WE TAKE THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE THE TESTING EQUIPMENT TO DO SOME OF THOSE TESTS, SO WE TAKE THOSE MATERIALS TO THE MANKATO LAB AND THEY DO THAT TESTING FOR US.
THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT IS HANDLED THROUGH THIS MASTER PARTNERSHIP CONTRACT, AND SO THIS AGREEMENT IS VERY HELPFUL TO US.
THERE IS POTENTIAL IF THE COUNTY WANTED MANKATO DO SOME ACTUAL DESIGN WORK FOR A COUNTY PROJECT, THIS MASTER PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT ALLOWS THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY OCCUR, BUT SINCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A MUCH HIGHER VALUE TYPE OF SERVICE AND NOT JUST A TYPICAL BASIC TYPE OF WORK DEAL YOU WOULD EXECUTE A WORKER OF A CONTRACT LAYING OUT THOSE TERMS AND WHATNOT FOR THAT.
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THIS MASTER PARTNERSHIP CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO.
I'M WONDERING HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE FOURTH TIME THAT THE COUNTY BOARD THIS TYPE OF MASTER PARTNERSHIP CONTRACTS BECOME BEFORE THE BOARD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AS COUNTY ENGINEER.
IT'S A ROUTINE UPDATE TO THIS AGREEMENT.
>> MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> YOU DO A BUSY TODAY. YOUR QUESTION?
>> YES. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR.
WE ALWAYS LOOK TO OUR VERY TALENTED COUNTY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACTS LIKE THIS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WITH MY VAST KNOWLEDGE OF ATTORNEY WORK IN THERE THAT WOULD CHANGE, AND IN MY OPINION ABOUT IT.
BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME REVIEW THAT YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT OR MAYBE NOT.
>> I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO REVIEW THIS CONTRACT, SO I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT CLOSELY.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ROUTINELY RENEWED THAN GENERALLY, I DON'T REVIEW THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T CHANGE.
>> VERY GOOD. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE MIGHT HEAR, SO THANK YOU.
>> IN MY READING LAST NIGHT, THE CITY OF ST. PETER APPROVED THE SAME.
>> EVERY STATE AID CITY AND COUNTY THIS AGREEMENT, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH MANKATO, THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE ENTITIES ACROSS THE STATE AS APPROVING THE EXACT SAME [INAUDIBLE].
>> HEARING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, SARAH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> YES. THANK YOU. THE RESOLUTION PASSES.
ONTO OUR AGENDA ITEM FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
[Additional Item]
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I'M HERE BEFORE YOU A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE ME TO SIGN AND ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN FOR CYBERSECURITY ASSESSMENT AND CONSULTING SERVICES IN PART THIS IS PART OF OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE STATUTE TO DO THESE ASSESSMENTS.
THIS IS A STEP TOWARD THAT, ALONG WITH LOOKING SOME OTHER PROCEDURAL MATTERS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
I'D ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT.
>> THANK YOU. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
[County Attorney Update]
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT I CONTINUE TO ATTEND A SUBSTANCE USE ADVOCACY GROUP MEETING.
THAT IS A GROUP THAT WAS FORMED WITH THE CITY OF MANKATO TO BEGIN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO REGIONALLY.
PERHAPS TO FOCUS THE OPIOIDS SETTLEMENT DOLLARS TO BEST USE
[00:35:04]
THOSE DOLLARS AND A REGIONAL OR AREA MANNER RATHER THAN EACH INDIVIDUAL ENTITY.I'M FOCUSING INDIVIDUALLY RATHER THAN AS A REGION.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING EITHER EVERY OTHER MONTH OR QUARTERLY TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME REALLY GOOD WORK OF PUTTING OUT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES TO ENSURE THAT FAMILIES ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE TO HELP THEM, EITHER AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR A FAMILY WITH NEEDS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE FOR SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES.
HOPEFULLY, THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT MONIES WILL START FALLING TO COUNTIES AND CITIES, I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT SETTLEMENT WILL BE COMING FORTH.
THERE'S ANOTHER SETTLEMENT THAT'S COMING FORTH.
ONCE WE START GETTING MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT DOLLARS ARE AND WHAT TIMING IS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE MORE COUNTRY CONCRETE PLANS FOR THOSE FUNDS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I SEE THE GOVERNOR SIGNED HIS PORTION ARE SIGNED OFF ON THE STATE'S PROGRAM YESTERDAY.
>> I DIDN'T GET AN UPDATED AMC LAST WEEK TOO, AT OUR ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA COUNTIES MEETINGS.
THAT'S SECOND TRANCHE OF MONEY WILL BE LESS THAN THIS FIRST ONE, CORRECT?
[Chair’s Report]
SINCE OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, THE REGION 9 REVOLVING LOAN FUND IS MET A COUPLE OF TIMES.WE'RE PUNCHING OUT MONEY FROM CARES DOLLARS BEFORE IT HAS TO GO BACK.
REGION 9 BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, EXTENSION MEETING IN NICOLLET, FUN THINGS COMING UP.
MOST OF THE DISTRICT SEVEN AMC MEETING BEFORE I GOT CALLED AWAY.
ONE WATER ONE PLAN, WE'RE DOWN TO A PLAN NOW.
IT'S UP FOR REVIEW UP IN GAILLARD AND LAST NIGHT'S BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS.
COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE REPORTS, COMMISSIONER MORROW.
[Commissioner Committee Reports]
>> COMMISSIONER KOLARS AND I, WE DID A SPECIAL ELECTION CAUCUS.
LET'S SEE THE CHP BOARD EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS.
I THINK MAYBE A FEW OF US DID THE AMC OPIOID SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION.
WE ALL ATTENDED AMC AND THEN THERE IS A HUGE ACRONYM, BUT SHACK, IT'S STATE PUBLIC HEALTH MEETING AND THEN LAST NIGHT'S MEETING.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KOLARS.
>> >>THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YES. COMMISSIONER MORROW AND I TEND TO VOTE ON MAY 25TH, WE HAD OUR QUARTERLY MAYPOLE MEETING, THE AMC DISTRICT MEETING.
I HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH OUR AREA TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS THE LAST MONTH AND LAST NIGHT'S BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK COMMISSIONER MORROW, COMMISSIONER GELIN, COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] FOR THEIR WORK AND OUR ASSESSORS STAFF, FOR THEIR FINE WORK IN HEARING PEOPLE AND HEARING THE APPEALS THAT CAME BEFORE US.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF ALL INVOLVED. THANK YOU AGAIN.
>> OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS ALSO HERE TO PROVIDE LEGAL BACKUP. THANK YOU.
>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA AS COMMISSIONER,
[Commissioner Meetings & Conferences]
MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES, NEXT WEEK WE HAVE TOWNSHIP ASSOCIATION.I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE WHERE WE'RE ALL IN AT THE SAME TIME.
YEAH. APPROVED PER DIEMS AND EXPENSES?
[Approve Per Diems and Expenses]
>> HEARING NO DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
>> MOTION TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
>> I WILL NOW CALL THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY TO ORDER.
[Call Drainage Authority Meeting to Order: Chair Dranttel]
FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.>> THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> ANY PUBLIC APPEARANCES REGARDING DITCHES? SEEING NONE, MOTION TO ADJOURN THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY.
>> AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.