[Call Board of Commissioners Meeting to Order: Chair Dranttel]
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>> [NOISE] GOOD MORNING. WELCOME, JULY 26, '22 FOR THE COMMISSIONERS' MEETING.
LET'S START. WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING.
>> THANK YOU AND TURN YOUR MICS ON PLEASE.
THIS MEETING IS OCCURRING BY MEANS OF INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGY AS ALLOWED BY MINNESOTA STATUTES CHAPTER 13.
THE NOTICE AND ZOOM LINK WERE PUBLISHED ON THE NICOLLET COUNTY WEBSITE AND ALSO AVAILABLE WITHIN TODAY'S PACKET.
AS REQUIRED BY MINNESOTA STATUTES CHAPTER 13, ALL VOTES WILL OCCUR BY ROLL CALL. THANK YOU.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS THE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE MESSAGE.
NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
[Approval of Agenda]
DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, SARAH, MICHELLE?>> WE DO HAVE ONE TO AUTHORIZE DIRECTOR KOPET TO SIGN THE BOARD CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF ADMINISTRATOR LANDKAMER.
>> WE'LL ADD THAT AS ITEM D UNDER PUBLIC WORKS.
>> OR MADAM CHAIR, WE CAN DO IT AS EACH CONTRACT COMES UP AND ADD THAT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT VOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
>> NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[Approval of Consent Agenda:]
>> ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, SARAH? IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG DAY SARAH.[LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS PUBLIC APPEARANCES.
HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL ROLL RIGHT INTO OUR MNDOT WITH THE CAPITAL HIGHWAY INVESTMENT PLAN;
[Administration]
THE CHIP OUTREACH PRESENTATION.WELCOME MNDOT, YOU FILLED UP OUR BOARDROOM.
>> WE HAD THE CHANCE TO GET OUT. [LAUGHTER]
>> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE TRULY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU TODAY AND SHARE WITH YOU OUR PROGRAM GOALS AND OUR LONG-TERM GOALS.
AS IN THE PAST, YOU CAN SEE THE DIRECTION THAT OUR PROGRAM HAS TAKEN.
I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL AT A TIME, AND I APPRECIATED THAT, AND I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR STANDING WITH US THROUGH THE YEARS IN ORDER TO GET HIGHWAY 14.
[NOISE] THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT AND YOUR PERSONAL COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT 14 STAYED ON PEOPLE'S MINDS AND MOVING FORWARD.
OUR GOAL IS SOON TO BE REACHED HERE BY FALL OF NEXT YEAR, SO THANK YOU.
I WANT TO THANK SETH WHEN ISSUES COME UP, WE WORKED THEM OUT AND IT'S ALWAYS APPRECIATED AND JUST TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.
AS I WAS SITTING HERE TODAY, I'M RECOGNIZING YES, WE DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE HERE TODAY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF NEW ROLES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE.
THIS IS SAM PARKER, YOU'VE SEEN HIM BEFORE, BUT HE'S CURRENTLY IN THE PLANNING DIRECTOR ROLE BEHIND RHONDA ALICE, ZACH SINCE YOU GOT IN YOUR NEW ROLE AS ASSISTANT DISTRICT ENGINEERING SINCE WE'VE BEEN WITH YOU BUT HE'S ONE OF MY MANAGERS.
HE'S STILL ACTIVE IN THE PROGRAM OR THE PROJECT OUT ON HIGHWAY 14 AND WORKED WITH TOM ON INDIVIDUAL ISSUES.
DORIS DEGENSTEIN IS OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS COORDINATOR WITHIN THIS LAST YEAR, AND I GUESS IT'S LISA AND I.
[LAUGHTER] THEN I ALSO WANT TO THANK JOEL FROM REGION 9 FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY AS MY PLAYING PARTNER.
I'M GOING TO LET EVERYBODY TAKE IT OVER FROM HERE BUT AGAIN, I TRULY WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE THE MOUSE? WHAT'S EASIEST HERE?
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING.
WE'RE HERE TO SHARE OUR CAPITAL HIGHWAY INVESTMENT PLAN,
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WHICH IS OUR PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.THIS IS SOMETHING AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT WE UPDATE ANNUALLY AS WE RECEIVE NEW FUNDING TARGETS.
WE ROLL THAT FIRST YEAR OUT INTO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AS WE LEARN AND WE SCOPE THOSE FURTHER OUT PROJECTS, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR PROGRAM, SO THINGS CHANGE AND WE'RE HERE TO SHARE WHERE THEY STAND ON IT RIGHT NOW.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE ENSURE THE MNDOT IS MEETING OUR FUNDING TARGETS AND OUR MENTORSHIP GUIDANCE.
MINNESOTA STATE HIGHWAY AND INVESTMENT PLAN DETERMINES HOW WE NEED TO BE USING OUR FUNDS.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, LOOK AT THAT AS $100 AND GENERALLY, THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD BE BREAKING DOWN OUR INVESTMENTS AS WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS AND DEVELOP THOSE.
ABOUT 60 PERCENT RIGHT NOW PER THE 2017 MINNESOTA STATE HIGHWAY INVESTMENT PLAN GOES TO PAVEMENT CONDITION.
FOURTEEN DOLLARS OF THAT $100 WOULD GO TO PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S ANYTHING FROM DESIGN TO RIGHT-OF-WAY, TO EVEN CONSTRUCTION INCENTIVES ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE.
ROADSIDE INFRASTRUCTURE, SIGNS, STRIPING, GUARD RAIL, NINE, ACCESSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE, THREE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLIANCE SIDEWALK AND CURB RAMP NETWORK BY 2037.
TRAVELERS SAFETY, THAT'S TWO DOLLARS OUT OF THE 100.
THAT'S THINGS LIKE HIGH TENSION CABLE MEDIAN BARRIERS, TURN LANES, LIGHTING, SOME STRATEGIC IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE SAFETY ACROSS THE NETWORK AND THEN BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE, ABOUT A DOLLAR FOR EVERY 100 GOES TOWARDS THAT.
WE TAKE THAT MENTORSHIP GUIDANCE AND THEN WE MEASURE OURSELVES ON THE PERFORMANCE OF THE NETWORKS.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NETWORKS HERE: WE HAVE THE INTERSTATE, THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM, AND THE NON-NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
TOGETHER, WE HAVE ABOUT 1,600 MILES OF ROADWAY WE MAINTAIN IN THE DISTRICT.
IF WE COUNT EACH SIDE OF A DIVIDED HIGHWAY IS TWO MILES.
TWO DIFFERENT ROAD BEDS THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING.
WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE AN ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN BRIDGES.
YOU SEE ON THAT RIGHT SIDE THERE, THOSE ARE THE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD OURSELVES TO, ESPECIALLY ON THE OTHER NHS SYSTEM.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 70 PERCENT OF THE INTERSTATE TO BE IN GOOD QUALITY, OTHER NHS ROADS LIKE 169 THROUGH HERE AT 65 PERCENT, AND THEN LESS THAN FOUR PERCENT IN POOR AS AN EXAMPLE.
NON-NHS ROADS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THAT FEDERAL REQUIREMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A STATEWIDE GOAL OF BEING 60 PERCENT GOOD RQI AND LESS THAN 10 PERCENT POOR.
THIS IS REALLY HOW WE MEASURE OURSELVES ON THAT PAVEMENT PERFORMANCE.
ON THE LEFT IS A PICTURE OF THAT VAN THAT RIDES EVERY MILE OF HIGHWAY EACH YEAR, AND ON THE RIGHT IS HOW THAT RQI IS GENERALIZED ACROSS OUR NETWORK.
THE GREEN IS GOING TO BE GOOD, YELLOW IS GOING TO BE FAIR, AND RED IS GOING TO BE POOR.
RIGHT NOW WE SIT IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE GREEN THAN YELLOW OUT THERE THAN WE DO, BUT WE ARE MEETING OUR PERFORMANCE TARGETS AND ANTICIPATE CONTINUING TO DO SO THROUGH THE LIFE OF THIS TENURE PLAN.
BRIDGE PERFORMANCE, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME MORE STRUGGLE WITH.
WE'RE NOT QUITE WHERE WE WANT TO BE ON THIS.
ON THE LEFT IS BRIDGES IN GOOD CONDITION AND POOR IS ON THE RIGHT, THOSE LINES ARE WHERE WE WANT TO BE FOR NHS AND IHS.
ON THE LEFT, WE'D IDEALLY LIKE TO BE ABOVE THOSE LINES ON THE RIGHT WE'D LIKE TO BE BELOW THOSE.
WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE AND THESE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE DECK, SUPERSTRUCTURE, SUBSTRUCTURE OF THESE BRIDGES.
FOR SOME SYSTEM-WIDE CONTEXT, WE HAVE 242 SPAN BRIDGES.
HALF OF THEM WERE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE 1975, SO TO REALIZE THE FULL-SERVICE LIFE POTENTIAL OF THESE STRUCTURES, YOU JUST GOING TO TAKE MORE INVESTMENT AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR 10 YEARS.
ANOTHER ISSUE IS WE HAVE SOME OTHER SIZABLE BRIDGES ACROSS MINNESOTA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE BLATNIK BRIDGE, IT'S ONE EXAMPLE BETWEEN DULUTH AND SUPERIOR, WISCONSIN.
THAT BRIDGE IS TAKING RIGHT NOW PROBABLY ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS OF NHS BRIDGE FUNDING JUST TO COVER THAT.
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BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THERE CAN BE FUNDING ATTAINED FROM OTHER SOURCES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO THEN HAVE MORE INVESTMENT IN THOSE THREE YEARS AND LATER CHIP PERIOD ON OUR NETWORK.>> THE OTHER EARLY ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'S A $1.8 BILLION BRIDGE.
>> IF WE LOOK AT FUNDING TARGETS, THERE'S TWO THINGS ON THIS CHART HERE.
WE HAVE THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, THE ATIP, THE AREA TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
WHEN ALL THE ATIPS FOR EACH DISTRICT ARE ROLLED TOGETHER, IT BECOMES THE STEP TO STATEWIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
WE REALLY DON'T LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES WHEN IT'S IN THOSE FIRST FOUR YEARS.
IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT'S OVERSEEN BY BOTH THE ATIP LOCALLY AS OUR MANAGERS.
THEN IT BECOMES A FEDERAL HIGHWAYS DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AMENDMENTS TO MAKE CHANGES.
GENERALLY, OUR TARGETS AREN'T GOING TO CHANGE.
WHEN WE ADD MONEY TO ONE PROJECT IS PROBABLY GOING TO COME OUT OF ANOTHER.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ABOUT $60 MILLION IN THAT RANGE, THESE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF PROJECTS, BUT OCCASIONALLY, WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY AND CAN GET FUNDING FROM EXTERNAL SOURCES.
IT COULD BE A BOND FUNDS FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO ACCELERATE PROJECTS OR VIA A LONG-TERM FIX THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WITH OUR FUNDING TARGETS, OR IN THE CASE OF HIGHWAY FEDERAL COUNTY, WHICH IS THIS BIG BLUE PIECE, WE HAD A PROJECT THAT WAS READY TO BE DELIVERED.
THERE WAS SOME FEDERAL FUNDS THAT HAD TO BE USED BY A CERTAIN TIME AND WE WERE FORTUNATELY IN A PLACE WITH THEIR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE IT WORK.
WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LONG-TERM FIX ON THAT 22 MILES STRETCH OF HIGHWAY IN FEDERAL COUNTY.
ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU SEE OUR PLAN TARGETS, OUR CHEAP YEARS, THOSE LAST SIX YEARS.
THE EBBS AND FLOWS HERE ARE MORE RESULT OF THE RQI GENERALLY ACROSS OUR NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
AS THOSE NUMBERS START TO DIP LOWER THAN WE'D LIKE TO SEE, WE'LL GET SOME FUNDING TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT, THAT WEAR ON OUR PAVEMENTS.
IT ALSO DOES INCLUDE BRIDGE FUNDING AS WELL FOR NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM.
WITH THE NEW FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION BILL, WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME OF THESE TARGETS INCREASING.
WE DO ANTICIPATE SOME ADDITIONAL FORMULA FUNDS THAT WILL COME TO THE DISTRICT TO HELP US OUT.
ANOTHER THING THAT'S COMING FROM THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE IAJ IS THE NUMBER OF DISCRETIONARY GRANTS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
THESE ADDITIONAL BLUE BOXES ON TOP ARE TARGETS, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GETTING PRODUCTS READY FOR AND WILL BE PURSUING TO MAKE THOSE PROGRAMS WORK.
HIGHWAY 14 IN NICOLLET COUNTY IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM THAT WAS DONE BEYOND OUR DISTRICT TARGETS, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE ATIP LOANS TO MAKE THAT ONE WORK.
>> IN THE BUILD GRANT. IN YOUR FOLDER, THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE MAPS AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL SAINT PETER BONUS FEATURE HERE; THE SAINT PETER AREA TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
ZACH IS GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME CONSTRUCTION UPDATES HERE IN NICOLLET COUNTY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
>> THAT'S GREAT THAT WE CREATED THE SAINT PETER MAP THAT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING WORK AROUND SAINT PETER.
[BACKGROUND] UP OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT BETWEEN NEW ULM AND NICOLLET.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE FAIRLY FAMILIAR THAT'S THE 12 AND A 1/2 MILE ON THE JOB.
SOME QUICK CONSTRUCTION UPDATES.
HOFFMAN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AT BLACKBOARD FALLS, WISCONSIN.
THEY'D BEEN DOING REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
THEY'RE PHENOMENAL AT MOVING GRADING MATERIAL.
THEY HAD A LATE SPRING START AND SOME EARLY SPRING RAINS.
THEY'VE ALREADY MOVED JUST SHY OF ONE MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF MATERIAL OF THE 3.3 MILLION THAT NEEDS TO GET MOVED OVER THE ENTIRE PROJECT BEFORE NEXT FALL.
THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF THAT EXCAVATED MATERIAL.
WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH SOME CONFLICTS WITH SOME UTILITY COMPANIES.
>> MADAM CHAIR. ZACH, WHERE ARE THOSE MATERIALS COMING FROM? IS IT A ROUND CLOSE TO OUR AREA?
>> YEAH, PRIMARILY RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE EXCAVATION WORK.
NORTH OF COURTLAND, THAT HILLSIDE, THERE'S A BALANCING OF DIRT PER SAY, WHERE YOU CUT INTO THE HILLSIDE A LITTLE BIT AND FILL IN THE BOTTOM SIDE.
THEY'RE REMOVING MATERIALS THERE FOR THE INTERCHANGE.
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SOME OF THAT AS WELL OVER BY NEW ULM, THERE'S THE, I CALL IT THE X9 HILLSIDE OPPOSITE THE BOLT LANDING.A LOT OF EXCAVATED MATERIAL THEY'RE COMING TO THE OTHER SIDE TO ACTUALLY BUILD UP THE EMBANKMENT FOR THE INTERCHANGE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE INTERESTING FACTS TO THE PROJECT.
SOMETIMES WE OVERLOOK GREAT COUNTING OF 37 BINDER WALL.
COUNTING OF 37 HAS BEING RAISED ABOUT 42 FEET IN THE AIR OVER THAT FARM FIELD.
WE PLACE SETTLEMENT PLATES AND WE MONITOR HOW MUCH SETTLEMENT OCCURS.
WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO NAVE EARLY. WE'VE GOT THE FILLS UP.
WE'VE SEEN ABOUT 2-3 INCHES OF SETTLEMENT SO FAR ON JUST THAT 42-FEET OF FILL, WHICH DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT MUCH, BUT IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING HARD STRUCTURE PAVEMENT.
YOU'LL SEE CURRENTLY THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS PLAN AS THE FOLLOWING.
COURTLAND 12 ON THE WEST END OF COURTLAND WHICH PREVIOUSLY INTENDED TO BE CLOSED FOR SOME OF THAT HIGHWAY 14 CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
THE CONTRACTORS HAVE OPTED TO LEAVE THAT OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY OF COURTLAND THROUGH THE WINTER, ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT BETWEEN NICOLLET AND COURTLAND.
THEIR PLAN IS TO GET SOME OF THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT DOWN ON THE WESTBOUND LANES BETWEEN NICOLLET AND COURTLAND, THAT'S ABOUT FOUR MILES WORTH.
THE WEST END OF THE PROJECT BETWEEN COURTLAND 37 AND HIGHWAY 15.
THEIR INTENT IS TO GET DOWN WHAT WE'D CALL THE FINAL BITUMINOUS STRUCTURE ON THAT 1.5-2 MILE LONG STRETCH.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE UPDATES.
>> MADAM CHAIR. JUST WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 12, NOT LOW GROUND.
THEY PUT SOME RUBBER MAP DOWN.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT?
>> YEAH. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE TWO-MINUTE VERSION.
I TOLD SAM I WOULDN'T TALK THAT LONG AND I'M AN ENGINEER AND TRADER BY TRADE OR TEACHER BY TRADE.
THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT'S A GEO FABRIC MATERIAL THAT HELPS WITH SOME ROAD STABILITY.
>> I CAN TELL YOU IT'S GEO FABRIC TYPE 10, WHICH IS LITTLE MORE RIGID.
THE THICKNESS ISN'T THAT THICK.
IT PROVIDES WHERE WE SEE SOME ORGANICS THAT ARE NOT TOO HIGH IN CONTENT WHERE THEY'VE GOT TO REMOVE THAT MATERIAL, WE CALL IT MAC.
YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE EAST END OF THE JOB.
WE HAVE KNOWN MAC NEAR SWAN LAKE THAT WE DO HAVE MORE MOVED.
THEY GOT TO GET OUT OF THE ROAD CAR.
HERE, IT'S NOT QUITE THAT WAY.
THAT FABRIC HELPS US MAINTAIN THAT ROAD STABILITY OVER THE TOP.
>> THAT'LL PREVENT FROST BOILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> IT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP A NUMBER OF THINGS, INCLUDING THAT.
>> UNIFORMITY IN FROST MOVEMENT.
I FORGOT TO MENTION, IT'S A PRETTY BIG JOB, $83 MILLION.
WE'VE NOT HAD TOO MANY DOLLAR CHANGE ORDERS YET.
WE DO HAVE ONE IN THE WORKS THAT CONTRACTORS LOOKED AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP US SAVE COST OF MATERIALS AFTER THEY BUILD.
WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A SIZABLE COST SAVINGS TO THE PROJECT ACROSS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITEMS, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $1.2 MILLION.
THAT'S AN INITIAL COST SAVINGS.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'LL BE OTHER DIFFERENT SITE CONDITION CHANGE ORDERS.
WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE RUNNING INTO A LITTLE MORE MAC THAN WE ANTICIPATED, BUT CONTRACTORS, AGAIN, BEEN REALLY GOOD TO WORK WITH IN TERMS OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
THEIR AGGREGATE PIT SOURCES, MEETING OUR SPECS, AND WHATNOT.
I THINK I JUST TOOK UP ALL MY TIME ACROSS THE FIRST PROJECT.
>> ALWAYS AVAILABLE BY PHONE CALL TO GIVE UPDATES ON THIS ONE.
WE DID THE COMPANION BRIDGE ACROSS ROBERTS CREEK ON THE NORTHBOUND LANES, WAS IT 2017, I THINK 2018.
NOW WE'RE BACK FOR THE SOUTHBOUND LANES.
WERE AWARE THAT ACROSS THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW, MAPS ARE INCONSISTENT WITH WHERE THEY'RE DIRECTING MOTORISTS.
WE'VE APPLIED SOME TICKETS INTO THOSE COMPANIES TO HELP ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR SIGNAGE SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE THAT'S CAUSED TO YOU FOLKS.
AWARENESS AS WELL IN THIS ONE, SO WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC RUNNING HEAD TO HEAD ON ASSAULT ON LANES.
WE PREVIOUSLY RAISED THAT ROAD ABOUT EIGHT FEET BACK IN 2013,2014.
WE DID HAVE TO CLOSE THE NORTHBOUND LANES BACK IN 2014 DUE TO HIGH WATERS AND SO WE'VE GOT THE CONTINGENCY PLAN IN PLACE THAT IF WE DO SEE HIGH WATERS, THAT WE WILL BE DETOUR AND ALONG NICOLLET COUNTY ROADS, WEATHER PERMITTING, THAT WON'T BE THE CASE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE SHAPING UP TO BE OPENED HERE AT THE EARLY PART OF FALL.
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>> WE WANT IT TO RAIN JUST NOT TOO MUCH.
BACK TO THAT HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT ALL THE EXCAVATED MATERIALS THAT LACK OF RAIN RECENTLY HAS REALLY HELPED THEM MOVE IN ABOUT 125,000 CUBIC YARDS A WEEK RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS JUST A LOT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT.
THAT ONE DOES INCLUDE IT'S A SHORT-LENGTH PROJECT.
IT'S MOSTLY ABOUT THAT ROBERTO BRIDGE.
THERE'S A BOX CULVERT TO THE NORTH THERE TOO THAT'S AN OLD VINTAGE AIR THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF WHAT WE'VE GOT THE ROAD MODIFIED IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.
THAT PROJECT NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT WHILE THE ROAD'S CLOSED THE DETOUR, THERE'S THE NEW ALM SPRING WAYSIDE.
IT'S AN OLD WPA PROGRAM ERA PROJECT AND WE'RE REVITALIZING IT.
WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK TO BEING ELIGIBLE FOR WHAT'S CONSIDERED THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
IT USED TO BE A SITE WHERE PEOPLE LOVE GETTING WATER.
WE WON'T BE FIXING THAT FEATURE THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT CONTAMINATION OF WATER AND WE'RE REALLY NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF MAINTAINING WHILE DRINKING SOURCES AS A STATE AGENCY, SO TRIED TO ENCOURAGE OUR PARTNERS AT MDH AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT IN THAT BUSINESS.
THERE'LL BE SOME NICE VIEW OF A POTENTIALLY HISTORIC RESEARCH RESOURCE, AS WELL AS SOME BENCHES AND WHATNOT ALONG THE HILLSIDE.
AFTER IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE AND IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE FINISHED THIS YEAR.
IS JUST A GOOFY ONE. YOU SEE ALL THOSE LITTLE BLUE MARKS ON THE PICTURE.
THEY TAKE A PHOTO OF THAT STONE AND ITS ORIENTATION AND ANY REPAIRS THEY DO, IT'S GOT TO BE BACK IN THAT POSITION AT THAT HEIGHT, AT THAT ANGLE SO INTERESTING STUFF.
THE NEXT ONE, VERY SPECIALIZED WORK.
WE ADD THE EMERGENCY BRIDGE REPAIR PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE HERE, LOOK, I'LL DRIVE IN MANKATO WE HAD A PIECE OF GARBAGE DISPOSAL TRUCK, HAD HIS BED UP AND CLIPPED SOME BBS UNDERNEATH THAT BRIDGE, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT OPEN THE SPRING AND GET THE WORK DONE WITH S AND PINCHES AND THAT WAS ABOUT A $380 THOUSAND PROJECT.
CONSTRUCTION UPDATES AND CLICK ON EXAM.
>> THANK YOU ZACH. NOW WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THOSE STEPS, SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
HOW ARE WE DOING ON TIME? GOOD, GREAT.
WE BOUGHT $350 MILLION OF PROGRAM PROJECTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE HAVE A MAP IN YOUR FOLDER FOR THESE PROJECTS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP IT LOCAL TO NICOLLET COUNTY HERE AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES.
I MENTIONED EARLIER WE REALLY DON'T LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS ONCE THEY'VE HIT THAT FIRST FOUR YEARS OF THE PROGRAM BUT WE DO HAVE A FEW THIS YEAR THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT HIGHWAY 22 WEST, THE SAINT PETER, SO FROM 20 TO OVER 111, THAT HAS MOVED FROM A 2025 TO 2026.
WE'D STILL LIKE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN 2025, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE FUNDING WORK FOR THIS PROJECT THE YEAR.
IT'S ALSO HAS AN ACCELERATED TIME FRAME IT AS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FLEX INTO 2024 SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE.
>> WELL, THREE REASONS I MENTIONED WE DON'T LIKE CHANGING THIS STEP.
WE CONSIDER THAT PUBLIC COMMITMENTS BUT THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF A TYPICAL PRICE ESCALATION ACROSS A TON OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS DUE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, LABOR SHORTAGE ISSUES.
THAT ESCALATION IS HERE TO REALITY AND SWEEP THAT ACCOUNT FOR IT.
SAME TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IAJA.
I KNOW I'M GOING OFF I THINK THIS IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE THIS STEP HAS ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG COMMITMENT AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE FLUIDITY THAN WE'RE USED TO.
WE TALK ABOUT THE $1 TRILLION INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE, BUT A LOT OF THAT'S DISCRETIONARY GRANTS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO COMPETE FOR AND SO WHERE THAT COMES FROM WHEN IT COMES IN TO HAVING SOME OF THESE SHELF-READY PROJECTS IS IMPORTANT TO US AS AN AGENCY AS A RESULT OF THAT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE THIRD ONE, SAM, BUT.
>> YOU PROBABLY GOT IT IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
WE ALSO HAVE THAT THIS 169 NORTH SIDE OF ST. PETER'S, SO NORTH OF HIGHWAY 99 UP TO UNION STREET.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY BEEN MOVED BACK AS WELL JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ADDITIONAL PRICE,
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THESE COSTS PROCEEDING THOSE EARLIER YEARS, SETS MOVED FROM 2024 TO 2027 RIGHT NOW.YOU THINK YOU WANT TO MENTION ON THAT ONE?
>> NO. I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ON THAT ONE AS IT RELATES TO AN IMPORTANT SAFETY IMPROVEMENT THAT WE ALL SEE IN THE AREA.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED ON THAT ONE.
>> FOR PROJECTS THAT STILL REMAIN IN PLACE, IS THIS INTERSECTION, THE SOUTH SIDE OF ST. PETER HERE, THE 1699922 AREA, THAT REMAINS 2023.
WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING SOME FIBER-OPTIC LINES AND BOLTS LONG HIGHWAY 14 BETWEEN NORTH MANKATO, NICHOLAS 2024, AND THEN A BIG PROJECT FOR US, THE VETS' BRIDGE CONNECTING NORTH MANKATO TO MANKATO.
ACTUALLY THE TWO BRIDGES, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ONE OVER 169 AS WELL WITH THAT.
>> WE WOULD CALL THAT MAJOR REHABILITATION SO THE ENTIRE SUPERSTRUCTURE IS COMING OFF BUT THE SUBSTRUCTURES GOOD.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REPLACING THAT IN-KIND, ESSENTIALLY.
>> THE BATS BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER, THAT IS BELGRADE BRIDGE, DOESN'T NEED THAT MUCH WORK TO IT.
>> JUST ACROSS THE RIVER FROM YOU ALL HIGHWAY 22 HAS MOVED FROM 2024 TO 2025 TO MANKATO AND SAINT PETER, KEEPING THAT AUGUSTA INTERSECTION AROUND ABOUT A MANKATO IN 2024.
WE MOVE OVER TO THE CHIP SIDE AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THESE.
MOVE OVER THE CHIP SIDE, THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE LAST SIX YEARS, SO 2027-2032 ON YOUR MAP.
WE HAVE ABOUT 623 MILLION DOLLARS OF PLAN IF YOU THINK BACK TO THAT BAR CHART A FEW SLIDES AGO, OVER THESE SIX YEARS, WE'RE STILL LEARNING ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.
THESE ARE COMING ON HIS NEEDS, SO IN 2027, 2028, ESPECIALLY THOSE NEAR-TERM ONES, WE'RE SCOPING THEM AND GETTING THEM READY TO COME INTO THAT PROGRAM THE FOURTH YEAR.
HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES ONCE THEY GET TO THAT POINT.
THESE WILL CHANGE, OUR TARGETS WILL CHANGE, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECTS WILL CHANGE, SO THE YEARS WILL SHIFT, BUT WE DO LIKE TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY IF A TOWN NEEDS TO GET FUNDING IN PLACE FOR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES OR NEED TO PAY OFF SOME BONDS, SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL DELIVER, BUT THESE PROJECTS ARE COMING IN AS THINGS WE NEED BETTER ON OUR RADAR THAT I'D LIKE TO GET TO.
FOR NICOLLET COUNTY SPECIFICALLY, SO THAT PIECE ON NORTH SIDE OF ST. PETER HERE GOING INTO THE CHIP YEARS IN 2027 AND THEN SOME OTHER PARTS JUST REMAIN AS THEY WERE PLANNED LAST YEAR, SO HIGHWAY 22 IN TOWN HERE, A 2028 PROJECT.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION HIGHWAY 169 NORTH AND THE SAINT PETER.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN WE PREVIOUSLY HAD IN A STEP BUT ARE MOVING OUT TO THE CHIP AND YOU'D SAY, "OOF, WHY IS THAT?" WELL, AGAIN, PRICE ESCALATION AROUND AND WE DID SOME MAINTENANCE WORK THERE AND WE THINK WE CAN LIMP IT ALONG UNTIL THAT MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION WORK.
TYPICALLY WE LIKE GETTING AS MUCH LIFE AS WE CAN OUT OF PAYMENTS BEFORE WE RECONSTRUCT THEM.
WE'RE TYPICALLY AT HIGHER RISK OF TRYING TO TAKE A SIMPLE PRESERVATION PROJECT AND PUSHING IT OUT AND THEN SAYING, SHOOT THAT FIX ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH ANYMORE.
WHEN WE DO THAT, THOUGH, IS MORE SIMPLE PRESERVATION PROJECTS [NOISE].
>> ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NICOLLET COUNTY AS WELL FROM RIVERFRONT DRIVE IN MANKATO UP TO ABOUT HAPPY CHEF, WE STILL HAVE THAT PLANNED AS A 2027 PROJECTS.
WE HAVE SOME BRIDGE FUNDS TO REHAB THE NORTHSTAR BRIDGE OVER THE MINNESOTA RIVER AT THAT TIME AS WELL ON THAT PROJECT.
RECENTLY COMPLETED A QUOTA STUDY THERE THAT CAN BE FOUND ONLINE.
WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE, BUT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NICOLLET COUNTY.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE PROJECTS OUR TENURE PLAN, THIS IS HOW OUR RQI WILL BE LOOKING IN 2032.
A LITTLE MORE RED AND YELLOW WE'D LIKE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY ON THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY SYSTEM, BUT WE'RE STILL WITHIN OUR RQI TARGETS.
>> WELL, IT'S INTERESTING TOO.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BLATNIK BRIDGE EARLIER, THE 1.8 BILLION SUCKING UP BRIDGE FUNDING,
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LOOKING FOR NATIONAL DOLLARS FOR THAT.IT'S CAUSING COMPLICATIONS PROBABLY ACROSS THE STATES BRIDGES.
WE DO KNOW WE'VE GOT WHAT WE'D CALL A BUDGET BUSTER IN OUR DISTRICT AS WELL AND THAT'S THE SECTION HIGHWAY 14, ESSENTIALLY FROM LOOKOUT DRIVE TO VICTORY/HIGHWAY 22.
WE'RE SHOWING WHAT WE CALL SOME SEED MONEY IN 2032, PROBABLY ABOUT 25 MILLION DOLLARS, BUT NOT A WELL-DEFINED PROJECT COULD BE UPWARDS OF 200 MILLION DOLLARS.
>> YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT CALLING OUT NOW.
THAT MINNESOTA RIVER BRIDGE, BIG PART OF THAT PROJECT TOO.
>> OUR NEXT STEPS, WE COULD HAVE RESTART THIS CHIP PROCESS IN AUGUST.
IT'S OUR HARD STOP, BUT AS I'VE MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF FLUIDITY AND THEN HOW WE ARE MAKING THESE LESS WORK.
WE'LL RECEIVE OUR NEWEST FUNDING TARGETS IN LATE FALL AND THEN WE'LL REALLY START THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.
FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO FULLY REALIZE WHAT THESE NEW FORMULAS FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE.
AS WELL AS WE'LL HAVE NEW MNSHIP GUIDANCE, SO YOU MAY HEAR MORE ABOUT THE MINNESOTA STATE HIGHWAY INVESTMENT PLAN.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF STAKEHOLDER AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT GOES INTO THAT CAN DETERMINE HOW WE SPEND THE FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO THE DISTRICT.
SOMETHING ELSE I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT WHILE WE'RE HERE.
DOERS AND OUR PROJECT MANAGERS DID A GREAT JOB OF UPDATING OUR WEBSITE.
HERE WE HAVE PROJECT UPDATES, CONTEXT, DETOUR INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
IF WE'VE COMPLETED A QUARTER STUDY OR HAVE THAT GOING ON, WILL BE THE CASE ON HIGHWAY 22 IN NORTHSIDE SAINT PETER HERE.
THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT THAT WEBSITE.
>> OR JUST POINTING THAT OUT, SO THE HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT AROUND CORTLAND, WE DO HAVE WEEKLY PUBLIC MEETINGS AT ONE O'CLOCK ON TUESDAYS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
MOST FOLKS ACTUALLY GET THEIR UPDATES FROM OUR PROJECT WEBSITE FOR THE WEEKLY UPDATES.
WE'RE SEEING THAT TREND IN SHIFT IN HOW PEOPLE WANT TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> WITH THAT, ANOTHER THANKS TO SETH, WHO WORKS CLOSELY WITH LISA, SO WE'RE HEARING FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH BOTH SETH AND THE CONDITION HERE.
>> MEANT TO SAY ONE O'CLOCK TUESDAYS?
>> THANK YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF MNDOT FOR THE HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT.
I WAS THINKING BACK TO 2006 WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS AND IT'S JUST NICE TO SEE IT GOING AND ESPECIALLY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WORKING WITH FOLKS OUT THERE AND AS AN ASIDE, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY ON HIGHWAY 22 AND HAVING A RIGHT OF WAY FOR A POTENTIAL TRAIL.
I THINK THAT WAS GOOD FORESIGHT AND I WAS AT A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE SUPPORT FOR DOING SOMETHING THERE WAS EXPRESSED, SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT FORESIGHT.
>> COMMISSIONER LUEPKE YOU HAD A QUESTION?
>> NO, I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
>> COMMISSIONER KOHLERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MNDOT? I FIGURED YOU WOULD. [NOISE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] IT'S BEEN MY GOOD FORTUNE TO BE PART OF THE ATP FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS BEYOND THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WITH AMC AND TO MARVEL AT THE EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US WORKING.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE DISTRICT [NOISE] AND WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE PLANS FOR WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE AND THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT GO INTO THEM, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
THANKS FOR FILLING THAT IN FOR ME.
I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE SPEND WANTING SOMETHING TO BE DONE, TRYING TO FIND FUNDING AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO GET THE PROJECT DONE AND USING THAT FUNDING SOMETIMES IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT TAKES LONG PERIODS OF TIME, DOESN'T IT? THAT CAN BE FRUSTRATING TO EVERYONE, TO TRAVELERS, TO FOLKS ACROSS THE STATE, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT PROJECT FINISHED, WE THINK NOTHING OF IT AND JUST MOVE SMOOTHLY ALONG, BUT A LOT OF EFFORT THAT GOES INTO IT FROM COUNTY BOARD LEVEL, EVEN CITY COUNCIL LEVEL,
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ESPECIALLY OUR PARTNERS WITH THE STATE.IT IS SO IMPORTANT AND THIS BOARD PUT 3.3 MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THE HIGHWAY 14 PROJECT AS PART OF THAT 83 MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S SMALL ENOUGH.
I'M HOPING THAT WHEN I WIN MEGA MILLIONS, SOME OF THAT CAN GO TO HELP PAY FOR THIS.
I KNOW ALL OF OUR MEMBERS WOULD FEEL THAT WAY.
>> ACROSS THE BOARD, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE UP 10,15, 20 PERCENT. YOU'RE SAYING?
>> IT DEPENDS. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THAT ESCALATION AROUND FUEL AND BITUMINOUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS JUST MOVE MATERIALS AND SO YOU THINK ABOUT FLEETS AND THOSE AND THE PRICE OF DIESEL HAS A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF THAT.
THE CEMENT THAT COMES UP RIVER FROM DOWN SOUTH, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE STABLE AS IT RELATES TO THE SPECIFIC PRODUCT IN CONCRETE, BUT STEALS ANOTHER REALLY TRICKY ONE RIGHT NOW AND OUR CONCRETE PIPES IN TERMS OF LABOR SHORTAGES.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OF 10-15 PERCENT.
SOME PROJECTS WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY SEEN COSTS OF CLOSER TO 20 PERCENT.
OTHERS HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO WHERE WE EXPECTED IT TO COME IN AT WHERE IT'S LESS COMPLEX, LOCALIZED WORK, NOT A TON OF MOVING MATERIALS.
[NOISE] TEN TO FIFTEEN PERCENT IS A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER RIGHT NOW.
>> FOR THIS PROJECT, MOST OF THAT STUFF WAS ALL LOCKED IN?
>> YEAH. IF WE'RE TALKING HIGHWAY 14, NEW ULM TO NICOLLET, THAT ONE WAS ABOUT 6.5-7 PERCENT OVER WHAT WE CALL OUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, WHICH WE'D SAY, "HEY, THAT'S NOT TOO BAD." BUT IT WAS STILL ABOUT 6 MILLION DOLLARS.
>> WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING THAT STREAM IOS TO CORTLAND?
>> THE CONTRACTOR RAN INTO SOME ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH EARLY BOX COVER CONSTRUCTION AND SO THEY'VE FLOPPED SOME OF THEIR STAGING AND THEY INTEND TO DO SOME OF THAT NEXT YEAR AS OPPOSED TO THIS YEAR, LIKE THE PREVIOUS SCHEDULE HAD DEFINED.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. [NOISE]
>> DORIS, IF YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA OF THE PACKET, IF YOU COULD LEAVE A COUPLE, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. [BACKGROUND].
>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS FINANCE.
[Finance]
GOOD MORNING HEATHER? [NOISE].>> [INAUDIBLE] GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE FOR THE QUARTERLY DONATIONS.
TO PRESENT THE QUARTER 2 DONATIONS TO BE RECEIVED BY APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION.
THIS QUARTER, WE HAD A VAN SERVICES TOTAL DONATIONS OF $300, LOAN CLOSET $635, FOR A TOTAL OF $934.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL BY RESOLUTION TODAY.
>> DO WE HAVE APPROVAL FOR THE RESOLUTION?
>> THANK YOU. FURTHER DISCUSSION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE AT LEAST ENCOURAGE IN THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN THESE TYPES OF DONATIONS FOR DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY? IS THERE A WAY TO PROMOTE THAT SORT OF AN IDEA?
>> I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. HUMAN SERVICES PROBABLY GETS MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT OF DONATIONS AND WE CAN ACCEPT.
THESE TWO ARE ONES THAT ARE RECURRING.
BUT I GUESS I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY.
>> MAYBE IT MIGHT BE WORTH SOME RESEARCH AND SEE IF OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THANK YOU. SARAH, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC WORKS AND WE'RE GOING BACK
[Public Works]
TO ROADS [LAUGHTER]. MORNING SIR?>> MORNING MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF.
SEVERAL ITEMS FROM PUBLIC WORKS TODAY.
THE FIRST BEING TO CONSIDER AWARD OF A CONTRACT FOR STATE AID PROJECT 52623027.
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THIS PROJECT, I'VE SPOKEN ON BEFORE AND REVOLVES AROUND RAVINE AND SLOPE STABILIZATION PROJECT ALONG COUNTY ROAD 23.WE HAVE A VERY LARGE 60-INCH CULVERT CROSSING THAT CROSSES IN THIS AREA AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME SEVERE EROSION AT THE OUTLET AND INTO THAT PIPE.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME EROSION BEGINNING AT THE INLET PORTION OF THAT PIPE.
THIS PROJECT IS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE.
ON JULY 18TH, WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS AND WE OPENED THOSE FOR THIS PROJECT.
ONE BID OUT OF THE THREE DID NOT CONTAIN ALL THE REQUIRED SUBMITTALS TO BE CONSIDERED A VALID BID AND ITS TOLL WAS NOT RED.
WE RECEIVE BIDS FROM HOLTMEIER CONSTRUCTION AND MATHIOWETZ CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
HOLTMEIER WAS THE LOW BIDDER AT $1,731,897.96.
THEY'RE LOW BID WAS APPROXIMATELY 23.7 PERCENT OVER OUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE.
THIS PROJECT IS UNIQUE AND HAS SOME COMPLEXITIES TO IT.
AS WE'VE HEARD THE DOT TALK ABOUT, AND WHAT THEY'RE SEEN IN BIDS IS, OF COURSE THERE'S MATERIAL, SUPPLY SHORTAGES AND WHATNOT THAT'S DRIVING UP SOME OF THESE COSTS FOR CONCRETE PIPE AND OTHER MATERIALS USED ON THE PROJECT.
THAT 23.7 PERCENT OVER THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE IS ABOUT $330,000.
ITEMS THAT PUSH THAT OVER OUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE WAS THE CLEARING AND GRUBBING, WHICH WOULD BE THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES.
WE UNDERESTIMATED THE COMPLEXITY I THINK THAT THE CONTRACT YOU'RE SEEING THERE TO REMOVE THE TREES ON THAT VERY STEEP SLOPE.
THAT WAS ABOUT AN EXTRA $80,000 THERE.
CONTRACTOR NEEDS TO BUILD STAGE AREAS RIGHT OFF THE ROAD 23 TO GET EQUIPMENT MATERIALS IN.
THAT WAS BOUGHT AN EXTRA 44,000.
WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONCRETE PIPE AND CONCRETE MANHOLE STRUCTURES NEEDED ON THE PROJECT.
THERE'S ABOUT AN EXTRA $36,000 FOR CONCRETE MATERIALS.
THEN THE LINING OF THE 60 INCH PIPE WAS ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL $136,000.
THOSE ITEMS ADD UP TO APPROXIMATELY ABOUT $320,000.
TYPICALLY WITH A LOW BID COMING IN THIS MUCH OVER OUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, I POTENTIALLY WOULD RECOMMEND THROWING THE BIDS OUT AND READVERTISING, BUT GIVEN THE BIDDING ENVIRONMENT, MATERIAL SUPPLY SHORTAGES AREN'T GOING TO GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON.
DELAYING THIS PROJECT, ANY EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT COMES THROUGH THIS AREA ONLY MAKES THE PROBLEM MUCH WORSE AND THE PROJECT IS GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE.
RIGHT AS WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO FINALIZING AND ADVERTISING THE PROJECT, WE DISCOVERED ANOTHER LARGE SLOPE SLIDE THAT WE HAD TO GO OUT AND SURVEY AND ADD ADDITIONAL QUANTITIES INTO THE PROJECT, WHICH OF COURSE MAKES IT MORE EXPENSIVE.
BASED ON ALL THOSE FACTORS, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD AWARDS THIS CONTRACT TO HOLTMEIER CONSTRUCTION FOR THAT LOW BID AMOUNT.
THAT'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION
>> [INAUDIBLE] COUPLE QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
>> YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER LUEPKE.
>> THE EXISTING FIVE-FOOT COVERED.
>> SHE SAID IT'S LIKE 300 FEET LONG.
>> THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET LONG.
>> THEN IT'S GOING TO BE REINFORCED WITH WHAT?
>> IT IS A UV CURED LINER THAT WE WILL INSTALL IS SIMILAR TO LINING MATERIALS THAT I PROBABLY SHARED WITH YOU THAT WE USED ON ROAD 1 TO LINE SEVERAL CALLED ROOT SOMEWHERE.
IT'S A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT EPOXIES AND FIBERGLASS LAYERS.
DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH STRENGTH THAT LINER HAS TO IT'S ACTUALLY AN ENGINEERED LINER FOR THE PARTICULAR LOCATION IT GOES INTO.
IT'S INTENDED TO TAKE THE FULL LOAD OF WHATEVER MATERIALS ARE ABOVE IT IF THE STEEL PIPE THAT CURRENTLY IS THERE EVER RUSTS OR COMPLETELY FAILS.
THE LINER TAKES THE PLACE OF THE OLD COLUMN.
>> LIKE I SAID, THE COMPANY THAT WILL SUPPLY THE LINER [MUSIC] WILL DO ENGINEERING CALCULATIONS TO DETERMINE THAT THICKNESS.
BUT GIVEN THAT THERE'S 45-50 FEET OF MATERIAL ABOVE IT,
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IT WILL PROBABLY BE A FAIRLY ROBUST THICK LINER.>> WHEN THERE'S 45-50 FEET, DOES THAT CULVERT EVEN FEEL IT WHEN A TRUCK GOES OVER?
>> I WOULD SAY NO. THAT LOAD IS DISTRIBUTED.
>> I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE.
>> NO. THE PROBLEMS ONLY GETTING WORSE AND THE PROJECT WILL GET MORE EXPENSIVE.
>> YOUR ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE BE DIFFERENT IF YOU DID IT TODAY IN LIGHT OF THE SUPPLY ISSUES, FUEL COSTS AND THE LIKE.
>> MAYBE ON THE CONCRETE PIPE.
MAYBE LOOKING AT THE CLEARING GRUBBING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE REST OF THOSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HARD TO FORESEE THOSE PRICE CHANGES.
>> BUT KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW TODAY, IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING.
>> IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU DID IT TODAY, IT WOULDN'T BE 1.3 IF YOU WERE CREATING IT TODAY.
>> THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE WAS DONE PROBABLY BACK IN LATE MAY.
>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MIGHT ASK.
IS THIS CONTRACT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SIGNED TODAY?
>> YES. CONCRETE MATERIALS ARE VERY HARD TO COME BY.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS GOING INTO BIDDING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HEARING THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT, BOX CULVERTS IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A BOX CULVERT THIS YEAR.
AS YOU HEARD THE DOT [MUSIC] FOR HIGHWAY 14, THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET A BOX CULVERT EARLY IN THEIR PROJECT.
THE CONTRACTOR DID SAY THAT AND HE'S BEEN CHOMPING AT THE BIT AS SOON AS THIS CONTRACT CAN BE AWARDED, THEY WILL PUT THE ORDER IN AND HAVE THOSE MATERIALS AVAILABLE.
>> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO AMEND COMMISSIONER LUEPKE'S MOTION TO AUTHORIZE JACKIE COBID TO SIGN THE CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SPEED IS OF THE ESSENCE.
>> WILL THAT GET DONE BY CHRISTMAS, IF WE'RE LUCKY?
>> WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION START DATE OF AUGUST 15TH, AND I DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETION DATE MEMORIZED, BUT IT'S IN EARLY TO MID NOVEMBER.
>> THE ROAD WILL NOT BE SHUT DOWN TOTALLY?
>> THAT'S THE PLAN. THE ROAD WILL NOT BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING SPILLOVER TRAFFIC FROM THE TRUNK HIGHWAY 14 DETOUR.
IN THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED TO HAVE SINGLE LANE ROAD CLOSURES WITH FLAGGERS AS NEEDED.
>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FIRST, WE NEED TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE AMENDMENT.
FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, SARAH CAN CALL THE ROLL ON THAT ONE.
SORRY. WE ADDED WORK TO YOU THERE.
>> OUR NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDER FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION IN A TRUNK HIGHWAY 22 CORRIDOR STUDY.
AT ONE POINT, THE DOT HAD APPROACHED MYSELF TO TALK ABOUT A POTENTIAL OF A TRUNK HIGHWAY 22 TURN BACK FROM 169 TO TRUNK HIGHWAY 111.
WE HAD DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE ONGOING FOR PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS, SEEING IF WE COULD COME TO A POTENTIAL ROUGH SCOPE OF A TURN BACK AGREEMENT THAT I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE PRESENTING TO THE COUNTY BOARD.
WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT IT NEVER CAME TO A POINT WHERE WE FELT LIKE WE HAD A TYPE OF PROJECT THAT I COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE PRESENTING TO THE COUNTY BOARD, AND SO THE STATE KNOWS THAT WORK NEEDS TO OCCUR ON TRUNK HIGHWAY 22.
AS YOU HEARD THROUGH THE PRESENTATION EARLIER, THE DOT IS PLANNING ON ROADWORK ON 22 ON THE RURAL PORTION FROM COUNTY ROAD 20 TO TRUNK HIGHWAY 11, APPROXIMATELY 2026.
THE PORTION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF SAINT PETER FROM 169 UP TO COUNTY ROAD 22 IS ANTICIPATED TO OCCUR AROUND 2028.
THE CITY OF SAINT PETER IS ALSO INVOLVED AS A PROJECT PARTNER IN THIS.
THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE DONE TO TRUNK HIGHWAY 22 IN THE CITY LIMITS.
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WELL, LATER LAST YEAR, CITY SAINT PETER REACH OUT TO MYSELF TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL OF TRUNK HIGHWAY 22 CORRIDOR STUDY THAT THE COUNTY MNDOT IN THE CITY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN.THE STUDY ON COUNTY ROAD 13 AND LOOKOUT DRIVE, THAT'S CORRIDOR STUDY THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN NORTH MANKATO RIGHT NOW, SIMILAR TYPE OF STUDY WOULD OCCUR ON TRUNK HIGHWAY 22 AND THAT WOULD HELP TO IDENTIFY SAFETY ISSUES, CAPACITY ISSUES, HIKING, BIKING, WALKING ISSUES.
THE CITY IS GOING TO BE THE LEAD AGENCY IN THE 22 CORRIDOR STUDY, AND THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO MYSELF TO SEE IF THE COUNTY WOULD FINANCIALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE STUDY.
WE HAVE TWO COUNTY ROAD INTERSECTIONS IN THE STUDY AREA, COUNTY ROAD 20 AND COUNTY ROAD 15.
FROM MY STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE COUNTY HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
TYPICALLY, IMPROVEMENTS THAT INTERSECTIONS ARE DEVELOPED THROUGH AN INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION STUDY.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL OF THOSE STUDIES BEFORE, AND GIVEN THE COST TO DO ONE OF THOSE STUDIES AND THE NUMBER OF COUNTY ROAD, I CALL THEM CLAIMS THAT COME INTO THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY PARTICIPATE UP TO $5,000 IN THE CORRIDOR STUDY.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
>> IS THIS A CONTRACT THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED SOON?
>> THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT THE COUNTY WON'T BE SIGNING, THE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY WILL BE RUNNING THROUGH THE CITY OF SAINT PETER.
THEY HAVE ALREADY SENT OUT RFPS AND HAVE HIRED A CONSULTANT, BOLTON & MENK WAS THE LOW BID PROPOSAL.
THEY WERE APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE $88,300, THE OTHER TWO RFPS THAT CAME IN WERE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS ALREADY EXECUTED CONTRACTS WITH BOLTON & MENK.
THE FIRST PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM MEETINGS ALREADY SET FOR AUGUST 8TH, WHICH I WOULD BE A PART OF THAT GROUP THAT HELPS LEAD THE STUDY.
>> DRANTTEL AND JACK [INAUDIBLE] DOESN'T SIMPLY MOVE APPROVAL?
>> FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
SARAH, PLEASE CALLED THE ROLL.
>> YES. THE NEXT ITEM IS A CONSIDERATE CO-OPERATIVE CONSTRUCTIVE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 5, SUNRISE DRIVE AND BROADWAY AVENUE ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.
THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES SINCE PROBABLY AS EARLY AS JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
THE CITY OF SAINT PETER IS INTENDING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION AT THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF THIS INTERSECTION.
BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIRE STATION AND ANTICIPATED GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING ON THE WEST SIDE OF SAINT PETER, THE CITY HAD SUBMITTED A LOCAL ROAD IMPROVEMENT PLAN GRANT APPLICATION TO HOPEFULLY RECEIVE BOND DOLLARS TO HELP FUND [NOISE] IMPROVEMENT PROJECT AT THIS INTERSECTION AND ALSO TO CONDUCT A STUDY AT THE INTERSECTION TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THE RIGHT TYPE OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
BACK IN JANUARY, THE CITY, ALONG WITH ITS CONSULTANT, WAS BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD PRESENTING THE RESULTS OF AN ICE STUDY.
AGAIN, THE ICE STUDY IS THAT INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION STUDY, AND OUT OF THAT STUDY, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A ROUNDABOUT WAS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SINCE THE COUNTY HAS COUNTY ROAD 5 AND ONE LEG OF THIS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVOLVED.
WHEN WE HAVE THESE JOINT PROJECTS, WE DEVELOP A COOPERATIVE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, WHICH LAYS OUT EVERYBODY'S ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDING HOW ANY FINANCIAL SPLITS OCCURRED.
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IN YOUR POCKET, YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE COOPERATIVE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.IT ALSO HAS EXHIBITS SHOWING WHAT THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS PROJECT ARE, FUTURE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES, AND IT ALSO SHOWS A BREAKDOWN OF HOW THE COST SPLITS ARE GOING TO WORK.
THE CITY WAS SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING A $1.25 MILLION LRIP GRANT.
THE CITY WILL BE PRORATING A PORTION OF THAT GRANT TOWARDS THE COST RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE COUNTY AND THAT IS ALL LAID OUT AND HOW THAT PRORATION WORKS IN THE EXHIBITS.
THE EXHIBITS ARE BASED ON THE LOW BID THAT THE CITY RECEIVE FOR THE WORK TO BE DONE AT THE INTERSECTION, DIRT MERCHANTS WAS THE LOW BIDDER.
THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT FINAL COST RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE COUNTY AND THE CITY WILL BE BASED ON THOSE FINAL ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AMOUNTS WHEN ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE KNOWN AND THAT INCLUDES ENGINEERING IN THERE ALSO.
THE CITY HAS SEEN THE DRAFT OF THE CO-OPERATIVE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS PROVIDED ME SEVERAL COMMENTS, AND, OF COURSE, WE DISCUSSED THAT AT LAST WEEK'S COUNTY BOARD WORKSHOP.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT I'M SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE COOPERATIVE CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.
>> DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MORROW? NO, YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT AGAIN.
>> WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AGREEMENT.
>> YES, WE DO HAVE AN ADOPTED COSTS OF PARTICIPATION POLICY FOR GENERAL COOPERATIVE PROJECTS, AND IT FOLLOWS THOSE GENERAL OUTLINES.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I'M WONDERING IF THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED BEFORE MS. LYNN CAME IN?
>> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD HAVE THIS ONE SIGNED ALSO.
>> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD AMEND MY MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZED JACK KOLARS TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF NICOLLET COUNTY.
>> I'LL SECOND THAT AMENDMENT.
>> FIRST, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
THE AMENDMENT PASSES, AND NEXT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
AT THIS POINT, WE WILL REASSESS THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING AND GET TECHNOLOGY READY FOR THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY MEETING?
>> IN MY AREA, SOUTH'S PEOPLE MET AND [INAUDIBLE] CREW HAD BEEN VERY ACTIVE LATELY AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
>> AT THIS POINT, WE CAN REOPEN THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FOR COUNTY DITCH 79, FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND LEVY OF THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
MS. KOPET, [NOISE] THE SHOW IS YOURS.
>> MORNING. [NOISE] THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
THIS IS A CONTINUED HEARING FROM THE COUNTY DUE TO 79 FOR THE FINAL ACCEPTANCE.
WE LAST WAS HERE ON JULY 12TH AND THE BOARD HAD ASKED ISG FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON A LETTER THAT WAS DATED JULY 12, 2022.
CHUCK BRANDEL IS HERE FROM ISG TO PRESENT THE FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
I BELIEVE IT STARTS ON ABOUT PAGE 95.
>> I HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN, YEAH.
>> THERE YOU GO. MR. BRANDEL WILL PRESENT HIS LETTER-WRITTEN PROPOSAL.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ THE LETTER, I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMARIZE IT.
IT HAS THE SAME OPENING AS THE PREVIOUS LETTER, JUST SOME OF THE WHAT HAPPENED, THE WHO WAS ON-SITE WHEN, AND WHO DISCUSSED THIS? I DID ADD A SECTION ON TYPICAL DRAINAGE DESIGN THAT I THINK YOU GUYS, OR MOST OF YOU, ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
MR. CORTEZ HAS A SMALL ONE PLUS FOOT BERM ADJACENT TO HIS PROPERTY; HE'D LIKE THAT KNOCKED DOWN.
TYPICAL DRAINAGE DESIGN IS THE BUFFER AREAS ARE THERE FOR A BUFFER, BUT ALSO THE MATERIAL THAT COMES OUT OF THE DITCH ENDS UP THERE AND THEY [INAUDIBLE].
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SO YOU DESIGN AREAS FOR WATER TO DRAIN IN-BETWEEN THOSE BERMS. THERE'S A STANDARD AND I JUST PUT IT IN THERE FROM A STANDPOINT OF THIS IS HOW TYPICAL DESIGN IS.BUT BASED ON THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, ISG IS WILLING TO WORK WITH A CONTRACTOR TO KNOCK DOWN THE BERM AND SEE THE AREA ALONG MR. CORTEZ'S PROPERTY.
IT'S HERE AND I BRIEFLY INDULGED A TWO-MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH MR. CORTEZ IN THE HALLWAY, AND THEN I DID TALK TO HIM ON THE PHONE.
TAKING THE BERM DOWN FROM CLOSE TO WHAT WE CALL THE ROAD SOUTH TO A BRIDGE THAT IS THERE, LEAVING THE RIP RAP OVERFLOW SO THAT WAY IF THERE'S A CLEANING IN THE FUTURE, THERE'S STILL AN OVERFLOW.
BUT THIS AREA WOULD ALL DRAIN TO THE DITCH.
I DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT COULD START TO WORK IN TWO WEEKS WHICH WOULD BE GROUND WORKS.
I JUST HEARD FROM THEM THIS MORNING SO THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T GET IN THE LETTER.
THEY COULD DO THE WORK, KNOCK THIS DOWN AND MAKE SURE MR. CORTEZ WAS ON-SITE AND THIS WORK COULD BE TAKEN CARE OF HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DETAIL.
I'M TRYING TO CUT TO THE CHASE.
I'D LIKE TO PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A SOLUTION THAT MR. CORTEZ CAN BE HAPPY WITH.
I DID ASK MR. CORTEZ THAT IF WE DO GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE AND SEE THIS AREA, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME MOWING AND MAYBE SOME SPRAYING.
IF HE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT, TO HAVE SOME MAINTENANCE, HE'D HAVE TO MOW A YARD ANYWAYS.
OVER THE PHONE, HE TOLD ME VERBALLY THAT HE WOULD DO THAT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU ESTABLISH GRASS, WEEDS WANT TO COME UP RIGHT AWAY.
YOU NEED TO KNOCK THAT DOWN SO YOU CAN ALLOW THE GRASS TO GROW.
THAT'S A VERY QUICK SUMMARY OF A LONG ISSUE.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE BOARD ACCEPT THAT, AND ACCEPT THE DESIGN THE WAY THIS IS.
IN THE FUTURE, WHEN YOU CLEAN THIS DITCH, EITHER YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH MR. CORTEZ TO SPREAD THE MATERIAL OUT FURTHER BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE A 16.5 FOOT EASEMENT, OR YOU MAY BUILD UP A BERM IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S WHY I PUT THAT STANDARD IN BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THIS MAY BE AN ONGOING ISSUE.
>> THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING TO INVITE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT AT THIS POINT.
MR. CORTEZ, I ASSUME YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK?
>> JUST THAT I HAD TALKED TO CHUCK AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM AND WE'D WOULD AGREE AND ALL THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WELL, AFTER THEY SEED IT AND STUFF, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE MOWING AND EVERYTHING LIKE WE NORMALLY DO.
FUTURE CLEANINGS OF THE DITCH ARE GOING TO BE YEARS OUT AND IF THEY JUST SPREAD IT REASONABLY ON THE BERM AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH MATERIAL THAT COMES OUT WHEN THEY DO THE NORMAL CLEANING AND STUFF.
IF A PERSON'S THERE RIGHT AWAY WITH A TRACTOR AND A [INAUDIBLE] OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN STRAIGHTEN IT OUT TO WHERE IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
SO WE AGREE TO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.
>> THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT? HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE CAN CLOSE THE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MR. BRANDEL, THANK YOU AND ISG FOR COMING UP WITH THIS SOLUTION; IT ADDRESSES MR. CORTEZ'S CONCERNS SO AT LEAST I FOR ONE AM GRATEFUL FOR THIS OUTREACH.
>> YOU REALIZE IF IT'S DRY WEATHER, YOU MIGHT END UP SPRINKLING TWO TOGETHER? [BACKGROUND] YOU UNDERSTAND, OKAY.
>> YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUMP AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE CAN PUMP WATER OUT OF THE DITCH.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT?
>> MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD MOVE TO ACCEPT THE FINAL ACCEPTANCE REPORT PRESENTED BY ISG AND DIRECT THE PPSD DIRECTOR TO PREPARE FINDINGS TO BE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT DRAINAGE AUTHORITY MEETING.
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HAD THE BOARD CONSIDERED LEAVING THE PROJECT OPEN UNTIL THE WORK IS ALL DONE AND THEN COMING BACK TO MAKING SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND THE BERM IS REMOVED AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PROJECT AND DO THE BILLING AT THAT TIME? THAT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION FOR THE BOARD.
>> JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT HERE.
>> I'M SORRY. WE GOT VERY OVERZEALOUS THERE.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION?
>> I'M GOING TO TURN TO THE ACCOUNTING ATTORNEY IF THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
>> I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S STILL OUTSTANDING WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED, THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO WAIT TILL AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
BECAUSE THE ISSUE THAT WAS BEFORE THE BOARD WAS HOW THAT ADDITIONAL WORK WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED, AND BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS MADE THAT PART OF THE FINAL WORK, LET'S WAIT TILL IT'S ALL DONE AND THEN COME BACK AND CLOSE THE PROJECT OUT.
I THINK IT COULD BE A VERY SUMMARY HEARING.
IF WE GET THE REPORT THAT THE WORK IS COMPLETED, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ENGINEER NEEDS TO RETURN BACK FOR THAT; THE BOARD COULD JUST HEAR FROM MS. KOPET IF THE WORK IS COMPLETED AND WE COULD CLOSE THE PROJECT OUT AT THAT TIME.
>> MADAM CHAIR, COULD WE AT LEAST ACCEPT THE REPORT FROM ISG TODAY AND THEN WAIT UNTIL THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT?
>> I THINK CERTAINLY THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED IT AND HAS NO QUESTIONS, AND SO THAT REPORT IS THERE, CORRECT.
>> IF I MAY. CAN I AT LEAST GET A CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'RE ACCEPTING OF THIS PROPOSAL, THAT THAT LITTLE BERM [INAUDIBLE]?
I WOULD MAYBE RECOMMEND DOING A MOTION TO ACCEPT CHUCK BRANDEL'S PROPOSAL ON FINISHING THE PROJECT AND THEN COME BACK ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE AND WE'LL, JUST FOR FORMALITY, CLOSE IT OUT AND WE CAN THEN DO THE LEVEE PORTION AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
I DO HAVE ONE FURTHER QUESTION JUST FOR CLARITY OF ANY BILLING PURPOSES AND BILLING OUT.
MR. BRANDEL, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY BILLS COMING FORWARD TO NICOLLET COUNTY BEFORE THEY CLOSE OUT OF THIS PROJECT?
>> I THINK. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY DUE FROM THE PREVIOUS HEARINGS.
>> BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING INVOICE SINCE PROBABLY APRIL.
>> I AGREE WITH THAT. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR FINANCE REASONS ON THIS, FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SO MAYBE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ISG'S PROPOSAL ON THE LETTER.
>> MADAM CHAIR, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T VOTE TO WITHDRAW, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO, WE CAN IGNORE THAT.
I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ISG LETTER OF JULY 20TH, 2022.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR A VOTE?
>> FURTHER DISCUSSION? SARAH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
>> I WILL CONTACT NATE HENRY WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR.
>> THEN AS SOON AS I HEAR BACK FROM ISG, I'LL BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR FORMAL CLOSURE AND THEN WE'LL LEVY THE LANDOWNERS.
>> APPROVAL OF THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY AGENDA.
[Call Drainage Authority Meeting to Order: Chair Dranttel]
>> YES. NEXT ON THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> YES. SEEING NO PUBLIC APPEARANCES FOR THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY, WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> YES. NOW WE CAN REOPEN THE BOARD MEETING.
OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE BOARD MEETING AGENDA IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UPDATE.
[County Attorney Update]
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND BE
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A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE AS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TENDS TO BE IN RESPONDING TO SITUATIONS THAT ARISE, WE CONTINUED COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS TONIGHT AT THE CORTLAND NIGHT TO UNITE.NEXT TUESDAY ARE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY NIGHT TO UNITE EVENTS IN ST. PETER, NORTH MANKATO, I BELIEVE NICOLLET.
BUT TONIGHT IS CORTLAND'S EVENT AND SO WE WILL BE THERE WITH INFORMATION ON FRAUD PREVENTION.
I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY LAST THURSDAY TO PARTICIPATE IN A TOWN HALL MEETING AND NORTH MANKATO THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY QUESTIONS FROM OUR EAST AFRICAN NEIGHBORS ABOUT JUVENILE ISSUES.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION ABOUT DRUG TRENDS AND DRUG USE.
I TALKED ABOUT THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WHAT PARENTS CAN EXPECT IF THEIR KIDS DON'T GO TO SCHOOL OR GET IN TROUBLE.
THEN WE ALSO HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM HUMAN SERVICES TALKING ABOUT RESOURCES FOR CHILDREN'S MENTAL HEALTH.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE 20-30 PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THERE.
IT WAS A REALLY GOOD EVENT TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE DIALOGUE AND PRESENT INFORMATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE REPORTS.
[Commissioner Committee Reports]
COMMISSIONER HAACK.>> I JUST HAD THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING AND WORKSHOP LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
THEN LAST FRIDAY, I WAS AT THE BROWN NICOLLET COMMUNITY HEALTH IN NEW ULM.
>> I HAD THE REGULAR SOIL AND WATER MEETING IN NICOLLET, A WORKSHOP THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS AT.
BROWN NICOLLET, WHICH THREE OF US ATTENDED, PUBLIC HEALTH IN NEW ULM.
YESTERDAY, WE'RE ALL MINNESOTA ENERGY BOARD.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TOUR THE WILMARTH POWER PLANT ON-
>> YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THEM. [LAUGHTER] COMMISSIONER MORROW.
>> THANK YOU.169 CORRIDOR COALITION BOARD.
THAT WAS A ZOOM CHALLENGED, SO WE'RE RESCHEDULING IT.
LAC MEETING AT THE LIGHTHOUSE, THE WORKSHOP, AND THE CHB BOARD.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KOLARS.
ALONG WITH THE CHAIR OF THE PERSONNEL MEETING, MINNESOTA VALLEY ACTION COUNSELOR WORKSHOP, TDS REGULAR, LAST FRIDAY'S MEDIATION, WHICH HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WE CAN SHARE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.
THIS AFTERNOON WE'LL BE ATTENDING THE COMP STUDY.
>> THANK YOU. I ATTENDED A PRESENTATION VIA ZOOM WITH THE STATE AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND OUR AUDIT.
I HAD PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT HEAD AND BOARD WORKSHOP, UNION NEGOTIATIONS, AND YESTERDAY, I GOT INVOLVED WITH A TRAFFIC ISSUE ON THE SOUTHBOUND 169.
LIFE IS GOOD. THE TRAFFIC IS FLOWING.
IF YOU TURN ON A DIRT ROAD AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU SHOULD BE THERE, STOP [LAUGHTER] NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS COMMISSIONER MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES.
[Commissioner Meetings & Conferences]
SARAH, DO YOU HAVE SOME STUFF TO ADD THOUGH?>> THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE UPDATES.
TODAY THERE IS THE NORTH MANKATO HHS TOUR AT 2:30.
THEN THE AMC POLICY CONFERENCE REGISTRATION WILL BE OPENING NEXT WEEKEND.
>> THANK YOU. IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON ATTENDING THE AMC CONFERENCE, LET SARAH KNOW SO SHE CAN REGISTER YOU AND GET ROOMS.
>> APPROVED PER DIEMS AND EXPENSES.
[Approve Per Diems and Expenses]
>> THANK YOU. HEARING NO DISCUSSION, SARAH.
>> MADAM CHAIR, SINCE COMMISSIONER MORROW IS THE FATHER OF THE BRIDE, WE HAVE A MOTHER OF THE BRIDE COMING UP IN OUR OFFICE HERE TOO.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONE WITH THE BIG SMILE AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
WE CONGRATULATE JACKIE AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THIS SATURDAY?
>> IT IS. TODAY IS MY LAST DAY.
>> YOU ALL WILL NEED YOUR REST WHEN YOU'RE DONE [LAUGHTER]
>> JACKIE, IS IT DAVE AND I THAT ARE DOING THE CANVASSING?
>> ACTUALLY, JOHN, YOU HAD VOLUNTEERED, SO I GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
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SORRY, IT WASN'T PREPARING. TERRY IS NOT.IT WAS TERRY JACK. JACK YOU ARE STILL CONTINUING CANVAS.
>> I'LL TEACH YOU HOW TO DO IT, JOHN.
>> I JUST NEED ONE. JOHN, YOU VOLUNTEERED FIRST, SO EITHER OR, I DON'T CARE.
>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?
>> WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT LAST ONE, DIDN'T WE? PER DIEMS AND EXPENSES?
>> YES. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.