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>> WE'LL CALL THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR
[Call Board of Commissioners Meeting to Order: Chair]
APRIL 11TH TO ORDER PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. IS THERE A MOTION?
[Approval of Agenda]
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MORAL AND ZOOMS DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, IT CARRIES.
THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA IF ANY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO
[Approval of Consent Agenda]
REMOVE ONE OF THE ITEMS TO DISCUSS WE CAN DO THAT IF NOT, CHAIR WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE.>> DISCUSSION? I'M HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE BOARD HAS OPEN TO HEARING PUBLIC APPEARANCES AT THIS TIME.
I'M SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO PROPERTY SERVICES. LAURA, GOOD MORNING.
[Property Services]
>> I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE FINAL AGREEMENT FOR THE MINNESOTA REGIONAL LIDAR ACQUISITION PROJECT.
THE AGREEMENT IS FOUND ON PAGE 22 OF THE BOARD PACKET.
ON NOVEMBER 20, 2022, PPSD DIRECTOR COVID PRESENTED THE BOARD WITH THE OPTION OF PARTNERING WITH COUNTIES IN THE MINNESOTA RIVER EAST ACQUISITION AREA TO OBTAIN HIGH-QUALITY LIDAR FOR 3D MAPPING.
THE NEW DATA WILL SHOW ELEVATION CHANGES IN OUR GIS PROGRAMMING.
THE COUNTY WILL KEEP THE OLD DATA AND USE IT TO COMPARE ELEVATION CHANGES THAT WILL INFORM THE COUNTY AND LANDOWNERS IN DECISION-MAKING.
COUNTIES FALLING WITHIN THE MINNESOTA RIVER EAST ACQUISITION AREA HAVE COME FORWARD OFFERING $15,000 AS A COUNTY MATCH.
STAFF PROPOSES, THE SOURCE OF FUNDING IS DEDICATED TO THE BUFFER ALLOCATION.
IN NOVEMBER AT NICOLLET COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AGREED UNANIMOUSLY TO CARRY OUT THE PROJECT.
THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT AS A FORMAL COMMITMENT AS A RESULT OF THE INTENT TO JOIN WITH OTHER COUNTIES.
STAFF IS ASKING PROMOTION OF APPROVAL FOR SIGNATURE BY ADMINISTRATION.
>> YOU HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
>> COMMISSIONER MORROW HAS MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER DRANTTEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT HAD HERE TODAY? ARE WE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE DOING? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[Public Works]
GOOD MORNING, MR. GREEN ROAD.YOU BROUGHT THE MONEY FIRST ALONG WITH YOU TO WATCH IT.
>> IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE THE MONEY CLOSE BY PUBLIC WORKS.
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF.
COUPLE OF ITEMS FROM PUBLIC WORKS THIS MORNING.
THE FIRST ONE IS TO CONSIDER A 2022 BUDGET CHANGE REQUESTS.
THIS ITEM REVOLVES AROUND THE LINE ITEM WHERE WE PAY OUT EXPENSES FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY PURCHASES, TEMPORARY EASEMENT PURCHASES.
ON THE 2022 BUDGET, WE HAD PUT IN A PLACEHOLDER NUMBER OF $100,000 AND WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET GROSSLY EXCEEDED EXPENSES FOR THAT LINE ITEM AND ALL THOSE EXPENSES REVOLVE AROUND WHAT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS WE PAID FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY PURCHASES FOR THE REAL 15 RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THE 2022 BUDGET WE HADN'T GOTTEN TO THE APPRAISAL PART OF DEVELOPING WHAT THOSE COSTS FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE.
WHATEVER NUMBER WE PUT IN THE BUDGET WAS GOING TO BE WRONG REGARDLESS.
IN THE END, THEY KNEW THAT AT SOME POINT WE'RE UNLIKELY WE WOULD DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ADJUST THAT NUMBER TO REFLECT WHAT ACTUAL PURCHASES WAS.
NOW, THIS DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW RIGHT AWAY IT WAS GOING TO BE FUNDED ON THE PROJECT.
WE HAD SPOKEN WITH THE BOARD ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WELL BEFORE 2022 AND HAD AN OVERALL REAL 15 RECONSTRUCTION FUNDING PLAN THAT LAID OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO USE TO COVER ALL THE EXPENSES FROM RIGHT-OF-WAY ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
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AGAIN, WE HAD PUT IN THE BUDGET 100,000 IN THAT LINE ITEM.OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY EXPENSES IN 2022 ARE JUST SHY OF $860,000.
IN THE BOARD PACKET, THERE IS A BUDGET CHANGE REQUEST FORM AND WHAT WE'D BE ASKING THE BOARD IS TO ADJUST THE EXPENDITURE TO MOUNT AN INCREASE THAT LINE ITEM BY $758,766.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF JUST THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THE WROTE 15 RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION, WE HAD CONVERTED ALMOST 130 ACRES OF EXISTING ROAD, 15 PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT.
WE CONVERTED THAT INTO FEET TITLES.
NOW THE ORIGINAL RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY IN COUNTY OWNERSHIP AND WILL SHOW UP ON BEACON IN COUNTY OWNERSHIP.
WE HAD TO BUY A LITTLE MORE THAN 28 ACRES OF NEW ROAD 15 RIGHT AWAY AND ESSENTIALLY, WE WERE BUYING A 10 FOOT ADDITIONAL STRIP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD TO ALLOW US TO WIDEN AND GET THAT NEW TYPICAL SECTION IN THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
WE ALSO PURCHASED A TWO-YEAR TEMPORARY EASEMENT, 63.5 ACRES THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR.
WE INVOLVE 125 RIGHT-OF-WAY PARCEL TO 137 TAMP EASEMENT PARCELS, AND WE WORKED WITH 89 DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITIONS, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT AND LABOR-INTENSIVE ASPECTS OF DELIVERING THESE LARGE PROJECTS.
THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST.
HEATHER AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UNLESS HEATHER HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TOO.
>> HEATHER WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER THAT NOW?
>> I'M SURE I CAN OFFER SOME FEW COMMENTS. LOOKING BACK.
EXCUSE ME. IT LOOKS LIKE THE LAST TIME WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE BOARD WAS AT THE JANUARY WORKSHOP.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTY ROAD 15 FUNDING PLAN SO NOW THAT HER PARENTS, THE AUDIT AUDITORS OR SOUTHERN ISLAND, LOOKED AT WHERE THE BEST PLACE WAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE FUNDS SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE SOME OF IT WILL BE IN ROMAN BRIDGE, UNRESTRICTED RESERVES AND SMALL PORTION NOT A WEIL ICH TASKS.
>> LET'S SAY THAT UNRESTRICTED RESERVE, THAT NUMBER THERE OVERPASS BUDGET YEARS IN PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, WE WERE SETTING ASIDE I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 200,000- 250,000 EVERY YEAR TO JUST SET ASIDE TO PUT TOWARDS FUTURE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SO THAT'S WHERE THAT 698 ROUGHLY COMES FROM FOR THAT.
IN GENERAL, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO DO A BUDGET REQUEST, JUST HOW OUR FUNDING COMES IN RELATION TO HOW EXPENSES GO OUT.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS NICE AND CLEAN CUT OF HOW THE BUDGET WAS SET UP, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A PLAN IN PLACE.
HOW OUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN AND EXPENSES GOING OUT.
>> BOARD, YOU'VE READ THE REPORT FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
>> MR. DAN HAS MOVED IS THERE A SECOND?
>> I'LL SECOND AND I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, COMMISSIONER MORROW.
JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH A SET OF FOLKS WHO MAY BE FOLLOWING THE MEETING CAN ALSO UNDERSTAND.
IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT WE REALLY UNDERSHOT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE? IF WE HAVE TO SPEND AN ADDITIONAL ON BUDGETED 658,000?
>> I GUESS I WOULDN'T SAY IT WASN'T PLANNED FOR THE PLACEHOLDER WE PUT IN THE BUDGET WAS JUST WHOA, SO TO SPEAK.
BUT WE HAD ALL THE FUNDING IN VARIOUS BUCKETS THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE TO PUT TOWARDS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND OF COURSE, CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 698,000 OUT OF RESERVES.
>> TO DO THIS, DOES THAT MEAN SOME PROJECTS WE HAVE PLANNED WILL NOT HAPPEN NOW?
>> I HAD ONE QUESTION AS WELL.
OF THE 89 LANDOWNERS, HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE ABSENT HERE TOO, I KNOW THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THAT SHE HAD TO GO TRY AND RUNDOWN.
DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ON HOW MANY THOSE WERE MORE?
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>> BOY, I KNOW WE HAD SOME, THERE WERE SEVERAL LANDOWNERS LIVING IN ARIZONA THAT WE HAD TO TRACK DOWN.
SOMETIMES IT WASN'T JUST THE ONE LANDOWNER, IT WAS USUALLY SEVERAL SIBLINGS AS PART OF THAT PARCEL AND THEY CAN BE SPREAD ALL OR I THINK CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA, I THINK WE HAD SOME PEOPLE ON THE EAST COAST.
IT GETS INTERESTING TRYING TO TRACK DOWN CONTACT INFORMATION AND PHONE NUMBERS AND THOSE TYPE.
>> THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MORE SOLID NUMBER EARLIER ON?
>> YES. JUST THE WAY OUR APPRAISAL WORK WAS STARTING IN THE BUDGET GOING TOGETHER, THE APPRAISAL WORK HADN'T GOTTEN FAR ENOUGH THAT WE HAD ANY OF THOSE HARD VALUES AT AT THAT TIME.
>> I GUESS I'D LIKE TO REITERATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE THE UNDERSHOOTING OF THAT NUMBER FROM 100 TO ALMOST THREE-QUARTERS OF A $1 MILLION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THE VALUATIONS OF THE LAND, BUT SOME OF THOSE LAND VALUATIONS HAVEN'T PROBABLY CHANGED THAT SIGNIFICANTLY OVER A YEAR IN TERMS OF HOW WE COULD HAVE BUDGETED FOR IT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS ALL THAT SIGNIFICANT, AND IT SEEMS SIGNIFICANT TO ME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET CHANGE OF ALMOST THREE-QUARTERS OF $1 MILLION THAT WE UNDERSHOT IT THAT MUCH.
JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME, TO BE REQUESTING THAT NOW.
MAYBE YOU COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON TALKING ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES.
HOW DOES THIS EXTRA FUNDING, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT PLACES TO PULL IT FROM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS SEE THE LEVY OR, WE'RE TAKING FROM RESERVES TO COVER THIS AND IT WON'T AFFECT ANYTHING [OVERLAPPING] SIGNIFICANTLY?
>> YEAH. IT WON'T AFFECT THE LEVY TO DO THIS.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT BINS THAT WE COULD DRAW THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PAYMENTS OUT OF.
WE GOT ROAD STATE AID, CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, WHICH RIGHT AWAY IS ALSO AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE.
THE HALF-CENT SALES TAX IS ALSO AN ELIGIBLE FUND SOURCE.
THE WHEELAGE TAX IS AN ELIGIBLE FUND SOURCE AND THEN ANY LOCAL LEVY DOLLARS ARE ALSO A FUND SOURCE.
WE'RE RECORDING THIS EXPENSE IS UTILIZING THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE IN RESERVES, BUT THEY WERE DOLLARS THAT WERE SET ASIDE TO BE USED FOR FUTURE ROAD PROJECTS.
IN DISCUSSING WITH HEATHER, JUST FOR OUR REPORTING TO THE STATE AUDITORS AND REPRESENTING WHERE THIS MONEY IS BEING SPENT OUT OF WE THOUGHT USING THOSE SET ASIDE FUTURE ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNDS AND SOME WHEELAGE TAX WAS THE BEST WAY TO REPRESENT TO THE STATE AUDITORS WHERE THIS EXPENSE IS COMING FROM.
BUT IT'S NOT TAKEN MONEY THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE LEVY OR AGREE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> MS. DRANTTEL, YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL.
THIS IS PROBABLY DIRECTED BY OUR 202 AUDIT.
THIS IS A 2022 ADJUSTMENT, NOT A GOING FORWARD ADJUSTMENT.
THIS IS LOOKING BACK BECAUSE THE AUDITORS ARE GOING TO TAG US FOR NOT HAVING THIS ADJUSTMENT DONE AND NOT PARTICULARLY GET A CLEAN AUDIT THEN.
IT'S A BOOKKEEPING ENTRY OR A BOOKKEEPING RESOLUTION TO KEEP THAT AUDIT CLEAN. CORRECT.
>> NOT RELATED TO THIS PROJECT, BUT SOMETIME AGO WE HAVE A VERY LARGE BITUMINOUS OVERLAY CONTRACT.
I THINK IT WAS OVER $3 MILLION.
WHEN WE ADVERTISE AND AWARD THAT PROJECT WAS, I THINK JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF THE BUDGET YEAR.
ONCE WE HAVE A LOW BIDDER THEN THE BOARD AWARDS THAT CONTRACT, IF THOSE ARE STATE AID PROJECT.
AT THAT TIME, I'M ABLE TO REQUEST 95% OF BID AMOUNT.
NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF THREE-AND-A-HALF MILLION DOLLARS CAME INTO THE COUNTY.
WELL, BASED ON ACCOUNTING PRACTICES, ALL THAT MONEY GOT MOVED BACK INTO THE PREVIOUS BUDGET YEAR.
BUT THEN WHEN IT CAME TO ACTUALLY DOING THE PROJECT IN THE YEAR THAT WAS BID OUT, ALL THOSE EXPENSES HIT AND THAT BUDGET YEAR.
BUT FROM THE BOOKS, ALL THE REVENUE WAS SHOWN IN THE YEAR BEFORE.
THEN THE STATE AUDITORS WERE WONDERING, WELL, GEEZ, YOU GOT THIS MASSIVE EXPENSE AND NO REVENUE COMING IN.
THAT'S PART OF HOW TIMING AND WHATNOT PLAYS OUT
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ON HOW BUDGET LOOKS AND WHY WE GOT TO DO THESE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.>> I COULD JUST ADD ONE COMMENT. HAD KNOWN WHEN WE WERE DOING IN MID '21, IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WAS 700 OR 850,000, WE WOULD HAVE JUST PUT THE OFFSET TO FUND BALANCE.
IT'S YOU PUT IT IN AND YOU OFFSET SAID IT WOULD USE UP ON VIOLENCE.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE AFFECTED LEVY AT THAT TIME WITH THE BUDGET HAD WE KNOWN THAT THAT'S HOW WE WOULD HAVE HANDLED IT IF WERE ABLE AT THAT TIME.
>> I FOR ONE CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE WOULD SET A $750,000 PLACEHOLDER DOWN.
THE $100,000 PLACEHOLDER WAS JUST LOOKING AT YOUR FINGER AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER AMOUNT TO SPEND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS?
>> MR CHAIR, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL STEWARDS OF THE MONEY.
WELL, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT NHD THAN YOU BOTH ARE.
>> A 100,000 FINE, I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 100,000, BUT I KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM. IT'S FINE.
WHERE IT'S LIKE, WAIT, HOW DID WE GET IT? YOU WEREN'T TRYING TO PINPOINT THE NUMBER.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IN FRONT OF US.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
GOOD DISCUSSION. YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM?
>> THE SECOND ITEM IS TO CONSIDER STONEBROOKE ENGINEERING ADA TRANSITION PLAN, UPDATE PROPOSAL.
BACK IN 2019, MAPLE ALONG WITH NICOLLET COUNTY, BLUE EARTH COUNTY, NORTH MANKATO AND MANKATO, DEVELOPED AND ADOPTED THE AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE MAPLE PLANNING E [INAUDIBLE] BOUNDARY.
AS PART OF THAT, WE ALSO INCLUDED ALL OF NICOLLET COUNTY, SO THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE ONE SEAMLESS ADA TRANSITION PLAN.
BLUE EARTH COUNTY DID THE SAME THING AND HAD ALL OF BLUE EARTH COUNTY INTO THEIR ADA TRANSITION PLAN.
THAT TRANSITION PLAN, THE INVENTORY DOLLAR ADA INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, CURB RAMPS, AND DETERMINED IF THEY MET THE CURRENT ADA GUIDELINES, AND IT HELPED TO IDENTIFY ALSO ANY AREAS THAT WERE BARRIERS TO ACCESS.
NOW, IT'S REQUIRED EVERY FIVE YEARS THAT PLAN IS REVIEWED AND UPDATED.
THAT WILL, OUR DEADLINE IS COMING IN 2024.
WE'RE GETTING A JUMP ON BEGINNING THAT UPDATE PROCESS.
MAPLE HAS ALREADY ADVERTISED FOR PROPOSALS.
STONEBROOKE ENGINEERING WAS THE LOW BID FOR THAT PROPOSAL, AND SO THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD TO START THE TRANSITION PLAN UPDATE FOR THE MAPLE BOUNDARY AREA.
MAPLE FUNDS ARE PAYING FOR ANY OF THAT UPDATE THAT OCCURS IN THE MAPLE BOUNDARY AREAS, SINCE WE WANT THE REST OF NICOLLET COUNTY'S PLAN UPDATED, THOSE EXPENSES FOR THAT PART OF THE UPDATE WOULD BE BORNE BY A COUNTY.
IN YOUR PACKET, STONEBROOKE SUBMITTED A COST PROPOSAL TO DO THAT UPDATE.
THAT AMOUNT WAS $10,302 AND 18 CENTS.
I'M THINKING WHEN WE GET INTO THIS AND IT'S FINISHED, THAT THAT NUMBER MAY BE A BIT LOWER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO OUR ADA INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M GUESSING THAT HARD, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUT INTO THIS, IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT THEY ESTIMATED.
I'M HERE TO ASK THE BOARD TODAY TO PROVE STONEBROOKE'S COST PROPOSAL FOR ADA TRANSITION PLAN UPDATE AUTHORIZED MYSELF TO PROVE THE WORK ORDER.
I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
>> YOU'VE HEARD THE REPORTS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
>> COMMISSIONER DEHEN HAS MOVED.
AS A MEMBER OF MAPLE I'LL SECOND THAT.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF CYCLES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO OTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US THIS MORNING?
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>> LATER? [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.
>> UNLESS THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU. MS [INAUDIBLE] ADMINISTRATION.
[Administration]
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY, BEGINNING ON PAGE 29 OF YOUR BOARD PACKET.
THE FIRST ITEM IS RELATED TO THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING APRIL AS NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
EACH YEAR, THE MONTH OF APRIL IS RECOGNIZED AS NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT MONTH EACH DAY, THE NATION'S 3,069 COUNTIES PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO MORE THAN 330 MILLION PEOPLE.
SINCE 1991, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES, OR NACO, HAS ENCOURAGED COUNTIES TO USE THE NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT MONTH AS A TIME TO ELEVATE AWARENESS OF COUNTIES RESPONSIBILITIES, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
THIS YEAR'S THEME IS COUNTIES RISE WITH AN EXCLAMATION POINT.
RISE STANDS FOR RESILIENCY, INCLUSION, SOLVENCY, AND EMPOWERMENT.
THE EXCLAMATION POINTS SPEAKS TO THE ENTHUSIASM AND PASSION WITH WHICH COUNTIES TELL THE STORIES.
COUNTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO REFLECT ON THIS THEME AS WE CELEBRATE NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT MONTH.
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION INTO THE RECORD.
>> NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT MONTH APRIL 2023, COUNTIES RISE, WHEREAS THE NATION'S 3,069 COUNTIES SERVING MORE THAN 330 MILLION AMERICANS PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO CREATE HEALTHY, SAFE, AND VIBRANT COMMUNITIES AND WHEREAS COLONIES WILL FILL A VAST RANGE OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND DELIVER SERVICES THAT TOUCH NEARLY EVERY ASPECT OF OUR RESIDENTS LIVES.
WHEREAS NICOLLET COUNTY AND ALL COUNTIES TAKE PRIDE IN OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE HELP, WELL-BEING AND SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND EFFICIENT IN COST-EFFECTIVE WAYS.
WHEREAS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES PRESIDENT DENISE WINFREY, NACO IS DEMONSTRATING HOW COUNTIES RISE WITH THE EXCLAMATION POINT, DEMONSTRATING EXEMPLARY, EXCUSE ME, RESILIENCY, INCLUSION, SOLVENCY, AND EMPOWERMENT.
WHEREAS EACH YEAR, SINCE 1991, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES HAS ENCOURAGED COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO ELEVATE AWARENESS OF COUNTY RESPONSIBILITIES, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
WHEREAS THE NICOLLET COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND ALL NICOLLET COUNTY EMPLOYEES ARE COMMITTED TO FULFILLING THE COUNTY'S MISSION STATEMENT BY PROVIDING EFFICIENT SERVICES WITH INNOVATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE NACO COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2023 AS NATIONAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT MONTH, AND ENCOURAGE ALL COUNTY OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES, AND RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT DATED THIS 11TH DAY OF APRIL 2023.
YOU'VE HEARD THE RESOLUTION MEMBERS, IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT TO APPROVE? COMMISSIONER ZINS HAS MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER, DEHEN, WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING COUNTIES HERE, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.
>> THOSE OPPOSED TO CARRIES. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE FOR YOU IS ON PAGE 31 FOR THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES CONSUMER SUPPORT GRANT PROGRAM DURING THE COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY, PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE, OR PCA AGENCIES WERE TEMPORARY ALLOWED TO HIRE PARENTS, STEP PARENTS, SPOUSES, AND LEGAL GUARDIANS OF MINORS TO PROVIDE PCA SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS ENROLLED IN MINNESOTA HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS. WITH THIS ENDING, THEY'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT GAP IN AN ALREADY CHALLENGING STAFFING CRISIS FOR FAMILIES.
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS REQUESTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONSUMER SUPPORT GRANT PROGRAM WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR FAMILIES TO CONTINUE THIS SERVICE.
THE CSG PROGRAM WOULD PROVIDE MONTHLY CASH GRANTS TO CHILDREN AND ADULTS LIVING AT HOME WITH A FUNCTIONAL LIMITATION.
INDIVIDUAL CLIENT BUDGETS ARE APPROVED AT THE STATE-LEVEL BASED ON AN ASSESSMENT AND MANAGED BY A FISCAL MANAGEMENT SERVICE.
CSG IS A STATE-FUNDED ALTERNATIVE TO THE MEDICAL ASSISTANTS, HOME CARE SERVICES OR PERSONAL CARE ASSISTANCE, HOME HEALTH AID AND HOME CARE NURSING.
THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE CONSUMER TO DEVELOP AND DIRECT INDIVIDUALIZED SUPPORTS WITH MORE CONTROL, FLEXIBILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.
PROMOTE LOCAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND DECISION-MAKING.
ENCOURAGE TO USE IT IN FORMAL AND TYPICAL COMMUNITY SUPPORTS, FOSTER CONSUMER INDEPENDENCE AND ACCESS TO CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE CARE.
HHS IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE FINAL PROCEDURES AND FIRMS ALTHOUGH THERE IS A DRAFT WITHIN YOUR PACKET FOR YOUR REVIEW.
JENNIFER LAMBERT, HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICES SUPERVISORS IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
ALTHOUGH I DO REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONSUMER SUPPORT GRANT PROGRAM.
>> SO THE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING FOR THE BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE AHEAD?
>> SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER MORROW HAS MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND?
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ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD OR GUIDANCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD COMMISSIONER?
>> IF MS. LAMACK COULD COME FORWARD, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
>> GOOD MORNING. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT HAVING FOLKS STAY IN THEIR HOME AND BE ASSISTED, ALSO COMPENSATE OR HELPS SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROVIDING THAT CARE IS ESSENTIAL.
I KNOW IT'S A CONTINUATION FROM SOME PANDEMICS AND HOW WILL THIS ALLOW FOLKS TO STAY AT HOME AND ALSO ALLOW FOLKS TO BE FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED AS THEY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
>> THIS SERVICE HAS BEEN GOING ON WITHIN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA SINCE 1995, AND IS AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS FOR NOT ONLY SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE, BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THEM TO ACCESS SOME GOODS THAT THEY CAN PURCHASE TO ALSO REMAIN IN THEIR HOME.
ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM IS THAT WITH THE FEDERAL PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY ENDING, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BEST SUPPORTED BY FAMILY MEMBERS AND UNDER OUR CURRENT ENDING OF THAT, BECAUSE CMS WILL NOT ALLOW THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TO CONTINUE WITH THAT UNDER TRADITIONAL PCA.
THIS CSG GRANT IS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WILL SUPPORT THEM IN THIS STAFFING CRISIS.
>> DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY FOLKS IN THE COUNTY MIGHT BE HELPED?
>> WE HAVE A SENSE RIGHT NOW THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST 10 FAMILIES THAT ARE ACCESSING PCA AND UTILIZING THIS PARTICULAR BENEFIT.
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANNOT ALSO BE ON A WAIVER.
THEY CANNOT BE ACCESSING TRADITIONAL PCA OR HOME CARE SERVICES.
IT'S A COMBINATION THAT SUPPORTS A SMALLER SECT OF THE POPULATION THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING SERVED BY THOSE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. LET'S CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> THE LAST ITEM I HAVE IS ON PAGE 66 OF YOUR PACKET, IT'S CONSIDERATION OF THE AIA DOCUMENT B132-219 WITH VETTER JOHNSON ARCHITECTS INCORPORATED.
THIS IS A STANDARD AGREEMENT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND HAS BEEN USED PREVIOUSLY IN OTHER COUNTY PROJECTS.
THIS AGREEMENT AS FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES OF VETTER JOHNSON ARCHITECTS, ONLY FOR THE JAIL RE-ROOF LOCATED ON THE NICOLLET COUNTY GOVERNMENT CAMPUS.
THE COST OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES IS 39,400.
THIS PROJECT WAS INCLUDED IN THE APPROVED 2023- 2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED AT 600,000 AND IS INTENDED TO USE RESERVES TO COVER THE COST OF THE RE-ROOF.
AS NOTED IN THE AGREEMENT, CONTEGRITY GROUP INCORPORATED WILL BE THE PROJECT MANAGER.
CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN THE SUMMER OF 2023 AND BE COMPLETED BY THE FALL OF 2023.
PRIOR TO START AT THE RE-ROOF, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AGREEMENTS WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
MR. CHAIR, TODAY I'M ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE AIA DOCUMENT B132-2019, BETWEEN NICOLLET COUNTY AND VETTER JOHNSON ARCHITECTS INCORPORATED.
>> YOU'VE HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR ADMINISTRATOR ON THIS ROOF REPLACEMENT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
>> COMMISSIONER MORROW HAS MOVED.
>> COMMISSIONER DRANTTEL. QUESTIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATOR REGARDING THIS?
>> JUST TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THIS.
WE HAVING AN ARCHITECT DROP OR RE-ROOFING PROJECT.
IS THAT THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS?
>> YES, BECAUSE OF THAT BUILDING CODES AND THE TYPE OF ROOF IN THE PAST, THIS HAS BEEN A STANDARD PRACTICE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND DO SOME ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS, INCLUDING THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED ON THE ROOF.
>> I GUESS, I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW THEY CONVEY THIS OR WHATEVER IT SEEMS.
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IF YOU'RE RE-ROOFING, YOU JUST PUT A NEW ROOF ON WE NEED TO PAY LIKE A $39,000 ARCHITECTURAL FEE TO PUT THE ROOF.UNLESS WE'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE ROOF IS I'M NOT SURE IF I'M BEING CLEAR ON, I WONDERING ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL THING ABOUT WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A ROOF REPAIR.
>> BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE ROOF AND THE TYPE OF MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED WHAT VETTER JOHNSON WILL DO IS THEY VERIFY OR ENSURE THAT THE BUILDING CODE IS MET AND BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PRACTICES WHEN CONTEGRITY COMES IN AND DOES THE ACTUAL ON-SITE MANAGEMENT, THEY ALSO ENSURE THAT CONTRACTORS ARE FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
>> WOULD ASSUME ALONG WITH THAT, THEY WOULD BEAR SOME RESPONSIBILITY IF THE PROJECT WASN'T PERFORMED TO SPECIFICATIONS THEN AS WELL?
>> CORRECT. WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, THERE ARE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS BY STATUTE THAT VETTER JOHNSON AND THEN CONTEGRITY GROUP THAT ARE REQUIRED TO MEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR? THERE ARE NONE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> YES. IT CARRIES. THANK YOU.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US THIS MORNING?
>> THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU ATTORNEY?
[County Attorney]
DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US?>> MR. TERRY WOULD ASK THAT MS. PETERSON COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND PRESENT THE AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
EVERY YEAR, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE AFFECTED BY CRIME.
MANY WILL NEED ONGOING CARE, SUPPORT, AND RESOURCES.
APRIL 23RD THROUGH THE 29TH AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK, A WEEK LONG INITIATIVE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT CALLS UPON COMMUNITIES TO AMPLIFY THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS AND COMMIT TO CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SURVIVORS HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL BE HEARD, BELIEVED, AND SUPPORTED.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE NICOLLET COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS PROCLAIM APRIL 23RD TO THE 29TH AS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK IN NICOLLET COUNTY.
I HAVE PREPARED A PROPOSED PROCLAMATION FOR THE BOARD'S APPROVAL, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE BOARD PACKET FOR TODAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT FOR YOU?
>> THANK YOU. WHEREAS, THE TERM VICTIM IS MORE THAN JUST A LABEL AND IT HAS LEGAL STANDING AND PROTECTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
WHEREAS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS ACTS PASSED HERE IN MINNESOTA AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, GUARANTEE VICTIMS THE RIGHT TO USE THEIR VOICE AND TO MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS.
WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, ADVOCATES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER ALLIED PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP SURVIVORS FIND THEIR JUSTICE BY ENFORCING CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS.
WHEREAS THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE AN IMPACT STATEMENT ENSURES THAT VICTIMS VOICES ARE CONSIDERED IN COURT DURING THE SENTENCING AND WHEN APPLICABLE, RESTITUTION PROCESSES.
WHEREAS INCLUDING AN ELEVATING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS, MAKE CERTAIN THEY ARE HEARD AND SEEN AND CREATES A PATH TO FORGING AND SUSTAINING COMMUNITY TRUST.
WHEREAS ENGAGING SURVIVORS CREATES RESPONSES AND SERVICES THAT ARE CREDIBLE, MEANINGFUL AND CENTERED ON INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.
WHEREAS SURVIVORS LIVED EXPERIENCE CAN SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS SHIFTING EXISTING PROGRAMS AND NEW DIRECTIONS AND CHANGING POLICIES OR PRACTICES THAT PREVENTS SURVIVORS FROM ACCESSING SERVICES OR PURSUING JUSTICE.
WHEREAS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOMMIT TO LISTENING TO CRAM SURVIVORS AND EVERY SPACE WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT COULD IMPACT THEM AND WHEREAS NICOLLET COUNTY IS HEREBY DEDICATED TO AMPLIFYING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SURVIVORS HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL BE HEARD, BELIEVED AND SUPPORTED.
NOW THEREFORE, I, AS CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF NICOLLET COUNTY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 23RD THROUGH 29TH, 2023 AS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK AND REAFFIRM THIS COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO CREATING A VICTIM SERVICES AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSE THAT ASSISTS ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME DURING CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
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EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSIONALS, WHO ARE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TO ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME SO THAT THEY MAY FIND RELEVANT ASSISTANCE, SUPPORT JUSTICE AND PEACE AND TO CRIME VICTIMS, SURVIVORS WHO ACT WITH COURAGE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.>> THANK YOU FOR THAT READING OF THE PROCLAMATION.
BOARD WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT TO DECIDE.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MOVED SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND DISCUSSION.
YOU'VE BEEN BEFORE US BEFORE AND YOU'VE TOLD US ANECDOTAL STORIES ABOUT HOW FOLKS ARE HELPED BY THIS.
MIGHT YOU SHARE ANOTHER TODAY ABOUT HOW CRIME VICTIMS PROCESS THROUGH THEIR SURVIVING PROCESS?
>> I BELIEVE JUST GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS VERY MEANINGFUL BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEY FEEL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE RIGHTS OR THEY'RE NOT BEING HEARD IN THE PROCESS.
JUST ABOVE ALL, WE KNOW THAT WHILE EVERYTHING WE DO, THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE OFFICERS THEY MAY NOT AGREE WITH, BUT JUST GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD WITHIN OUR OFFICE AND AT COURT HEARINGS WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR STATEMENTS, I BELIEVE IS BENEFICIAL TO THEM.
THEN ALSO JUST ASSISTING VICTIMS WITH RESTITUTION, HAVING THOSE OUT-OF-POCKET LOSSES THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY DID NOT EXPECT AND JUST ME BEING ABLE TO HELP THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DOING WHATEVER I CAN TO GET THEM THEIR PAYMENTS.
>> THANK YOU FOR FILLING IN THOSE BLANKS AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
W'D YOU LIKE TO CALL THE ROLL?
THANK YOU, BONNIE, AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR PROVIDING THIS SERVICE.
>> ALTER INTO MADAM ATTORNEY NOW FOR
[County Attorney Update]
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY UPDATE AND JUST TO GIVE THE HEADS-UP ON THE LAST.KURT, YOU'RE GOING TO COME NEXT, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY BACK HERE ON COMMISSIONER REPORTS.
>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT MS. PETERSON STATED.
I WAS ABLE TO HIRE A LAW CLERK THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH US THIS SUMMER.
PART OF HER RESPONSIBILITIES WILL INCLUDE LOOKING AT OUTSTANDING RESTITUTION ON CRIMINAL CASES AND IF THERE'S NOT A PAYMENT PLAN FOR EXAMPLE IN PLACE TO BRING THAT BACK BEFORE THE COURT TO SET UP PAYMENT PLANS SO WE CAN TRY TO GET SOME OF THOSE PAYMENTS MADE WHERE THAT IS A FEASIBLE OUTCOME OF BRINGING THAT BACK INTO COURT.
BUT APRIL IS A REALLY BUSY MONTH FOR MS. PETERSON.
IN ADDITION TO BEING CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK, APRIL IS ALSO CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH AND AWARENESS.
IT IS ALSO SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH AND SO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT BOOTHS AND DISPLAYS IN THE TWO LIBRARIES IN NORTH MANKATO AND ST. PETER ON THOSE EVENTS, AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AS WELL.
DENIM DAY WAS ORIGINATED AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WITH YOUR PERMISSION AS WELL.
BUT DENIM DAY ORIGINATED OUT OF AN ITALIAN COURT DECISION THAT OVERTURNED A SEXUAL ASSAULT CONVICTION BASED UPON THE JUDGES BELIEF THAT A WOMAN COULD NOT BE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED WHEN SHE WAS WEARING JEANS.
IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT EXPLANATION TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY A BELIEF THAT LED TO A REVERSAL OF A CONVICTION, BUT IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT STILL EXISTS AROUND SEXUAL ASSAULT.
WE WILL BE ASKING THAT EMPLOYERS ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO WEAR JEANS ON THAT DAY TO BRING AWARENESS TO THAT TOPIC.
IN ADDITION TO THOSE RECOGNITIONS THIS MONTH, MS. PETERSON WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROJECT COMMUNITY CONNECT IN MANKATO ON APRIL 18TH IN THE AFTERNOON.
SHE'LL HAVE A BOOTH FOR THE OFFICE THAT HAS CRIME VICTIM INFORMATION, FRAUD PREVENTION INFORMATION, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ON
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DRIVER'S LICENSE REINSTATEMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO CONSIDER.MS. PETERSON AND I WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE SENIOR EXPO HERE IN ST. PETER ON APRIL 20TH IN THE AFTERNOON.
WE DID A FRAUD PRESENTATION LAST THURSDAY IN NICOLLET, AND THAT IS ALL ON TOP OF THE GRANT FOR THE TWO-YEAR COMPETITIVE CYCLE THAT IS DUE TOMORROW THAT MS. PETERSON HAS BEEN WORKING ON.
THIS MONTH IS BUSY RECOGNIZING THE IMPACT THAT CRIMES AND THE WORK THAT WE DO EVERY DAY HAVE ON MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
COMMISSIONER COMMITTEE REPORTS SO LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER ZINS.
[Commissioner Committee Reports, Meetings & Conferences]
>> I ATTENDED THE AMC LEADERSHIP SUMMIT ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY AND THERE'S SOME GOOD INFORMATION THERE.
ALSO ATTENDED INSURANCE COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, GO OVER THE RESULTS OF THE RFP FOR THE DENTAL INSURANCE WITH COUNTY.
ALSO ATTENDED A MEETING WITH SOME RESONANCE OVER BY KEARNS ESTATE REGARDING HOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS THE KEARNS ESTATE WHILE THEY'RE REPLACING THE CULVERT OR BRIDGE IN TOWN SHIPMENT. JUST SAT IN ON THAT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DAN.
>> THE GMG BOARD SET UP A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE HAVING THEIR DAY AT THE CAPITAL ON APRIL 25TH FROM 8:00-2:30, AND ALL ARE INVITED.
THEY ARE ALSO HOSTING THE THINK TANKS FOR THEIR TRANSFORMING TOGETHER 2040 ON THE MORNING OF APRIL 14TH AND 28TH.
I ATTENDED THE MRCI ANNUAL MEETING, WHICH IS THE FIRST ANNUAL MEETING THEY'VE HAD SINCE 2019 DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
I HAD STAFF FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, SOME INFOGRAPHICS ON THEIR ACTIVITIES AND WHERE THEY'RE STANDING RIGHT NOW.
WE ALSO HAD THE INTRODUCTION OF THEIR NEW CEO, CASEY WAS THERE, SO THAT WAS NICE TO MEET HIM IN PERSON.
THEN I ATTENDED SOME SHACK TRAINING ON THE USE OF BASE CAMP, WHICH IS PART OF THEIR PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MORROW.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO BOTH STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS AS I WENT THROUGH ROUND 2 OF COVID SO I HAD TO MISS A FEW MEETINGS THERE.
I DID A TON OF COLLABORATIVE MEETING AND NO MORE TO REPORT RIGHT NOW.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRANTON.
>> MY UNION NEGOTIATIONS I HAD NON-COVID, BUT MISS SOMETHING DUE TO AN ILLNESS LAST WEEK.
I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE TOWNSHIP ASSOCIATION MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT BECAUSE I WILL BE GOING TO REGION NIGHT MEETING AT THE SAME TIME.
>> YES, FOLKS, THAT'S A REMINDER.
WE DO HAVE A TALENT SHOW UP TOMORROW NIGHT.
AS FAR AS THE CHAIR'S REPORT, ATTENDING THE LEADERSHIP SUMMIT UP AT MISS SWANN.
END OF MARCH, I HAD A TDS MEETING PERSONNEL WITH THE COMMISSIONER ANTONEY IN A VALLEY ACTION COUNCIL.
AFTER A BUSY MARCH THIS APRIL LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE BUSY AGAIN TOO FOR MEETINGS.
CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PODIUMS AND EXPENSES.
[Approve Per Diems and Expenses]
>> COMMISSIONER ZINS SAYS MOVED, IS THERE A SECOND?
>> COMMISSIONER DAN, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I'LL ADJOURN THE BOARD MEETING AND ASK VICE CHAIR MORROW TO CARRY FORWARD.
I HAVE TO TAKE A CALL. MR. CHAIR.
>> ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL CALL THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY MEETING OF APRIL 11, 2023 TO ORDER.
[Call Drainage Authority Meeting to Order: Chair]
FOLKS, CANDIDATES 83, THE PUBLIC HEARING STARTS AT TEN O'CLOCK IN CONSIDERATION THAT THE REPAIR OPTION TOOK AT TEN O'CLOCK.LET'S TAKE A RECESS FROM NOW TILL 10:00, LET FOLKS GET CHECKED IN.
FOLKS, YOU CAN WALK AROUND, STRETCH, AND WE'LL START AGAIN, MR. CHAIR, AT TEN O'CLOCK.
>> AT 10:00 O'CLOCK, WE WILL RECONVENE THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY MEETING TO ORDER PROBABLY WORK TO CONSIDER COUNTY DITCH 83,
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DITCH BANK DRIVEWAY REPAIR OPTIONS.>> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF HERE AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT COUNTY DITCH 83 BANK DRIVEWAY REPAIR OPTIONS.
HERE TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, IF LANORD DIDN'T SEE IT, WE HAD SOME COPIES OF THE PRESENTATION MATERIALS THAT WILL ALSO BE UP ON THE SCREEN.
IN 2022, LANORD AND MIKE HIPPERT HAD REACHED OUT TO OUR OFFICE WITH CONCERNS ABOUT SEVERE DITCH BANK EROSION OCCURRING ON COUNTY DITCH 83 THAT PARALLELS HIS DRIVEWAY.
NATE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THE AREA, TOOK SOME PICTURES AND AFTER THAT, WE HAD MET WITH THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY AND THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY LAST YEAR HAD AUTHORIZED THE HIRING OF HOUSTON ENGINEERING TO DEVELOP REPAIR OPTIONS TO MITIGATE THE DITCH BANK EROSION THAT WAS OCCURRING, AND TO PROTECT THE HIPPER DRIVEWAY.
WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PACKET INFORMATION, THE FIRST ITEM, AND MAYBE SARAH CAN BRING IT UP. YEAH, THAT ONE.
IS AN OVERALL MAP OF WHERE THE REPAIR LOCATION IS.
IT'S OUT NEAR NEW ORLEANS, NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM WHERE OUR ROAD 37 COMES INTO TRUNK HIGHWAY 14.
THE SECOND MAP IS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED MAP.
IT SHOWS WITH A DOTTED GREEN LINE THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED REPAIR WORK AND THAT'S AT THE TAIL END OF COUNTY DITCH 83, THE OUTLET IN.
THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL PICTURES IN THE PACKET JUST SHOWING HOW THAT PART OF THE DITCH SYSTEM LOOKS AND THE EROSION THAT IS OCCURRING.
HOW THE DITCH BANK IS CONTINUALLY SLOUGHING IN AND WORKING ITS WAY TOWARDS THE HIPPERT DRIVEWAY.
THE UNDERLYING SOILS, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF GRAVEL, SANDY MATERIAL, AND WATER LIKES TO WORK THROUGH, LIQUEFIES AND MAKES THOSE EMBANKMENT MATERIALS UNSTABLE.
OF COURSE, WITH HEAVIER RAINS AND MORE WATER COMING THROUGH THE DITCH, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SOFTER EMBANKMENT MATERIAL, THOSE FLOWS JUST CONTINUALLY WASH AWAY THAT MATERIAL.
AGAIN, WE CONTRACTED WITH HOUSTON ENGINEERING TO REVIEW THE SITE AND COME UP WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO MITIGATE THE EROSION AND DAMAGE THAT IS OCCURRING.
THE FIRST ALTERNATIVE THAT HOUSTON ENGINEERING CAME UP WITH WAS A RELOCATION OF THE HIPPER DRIVEWAY, ESSENTIALLY JUST MOVING THE DRIVEWAY FURTHER AWAY FROM THE DITCH CHANNEL.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE ABOUT 1,500 FEET OF RELOCATION OF THE HIPPER DRIVEWAY AND HAD AN ESTIMATED COST OF $51,000 TO DO THAT.
REALLY IN MY OPINION, THE ONLY REASON THAT THIS IS A VIABLE OPTION AT THIS POINT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LANDOWNER THAT IS WILLING TO ALLOW HIS DRIVEWAY TO BE MOVED, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE AWAY MORE OF HIS USABLE PROPERTY FOR THAT.
[NOISE] THE SECOND OPTION THAT HOUSTON CAME UP WITH WAS INSTALLED IN SEEPAGE TILE BECAUSE SOME OF THAT WATER THAT IS WORKING ITS WAY UNDERNEATH THE HIPPER DRIVEWAY INTO THE DITCH BANK IS ONE OF THE CAUSES OF WHY THAT DITCH BANK IS FAILING.
IT WOULD BE INSTALLING A SEEPAGE TILE UPSTREAM FROM THE HIPPER DRIVEWAY AND TRYING TO INTERCEPT THAT SUBSURFACE WATER THAT IS WORKING THROUGH.
HOUSTON ENGINEERING HAD SUBMITTED AN ESTIMATED COST TO INSTALL THAT SEEPAGE TITLE AT A COST OF ABOUT $100,000.
THE THIRD OPTION THAT THEY CAME UP WITH IS TOO HARD ARMOR, REGRADE THAT DITCH BANK SLOPE, AND THEN HARD ARMOR IT WITH RIP RAP.
RIP RAP IS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE AND FOR THAT LENGTH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST $170,000 FOR AN ESTIMATED COST TOO HARD ARMOR THAT BANK.
ESSENTIALLY THOSE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT HOUSTON ENGINEERING CAME UP WITH, OF COURSE WITH RELOCATION AND THE DRIVEWAY BEING THE CHEAPEST OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS.
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AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH MR. HIPPERT AND HE IS AMENABLE TO THAT RELOCATION OPTION.WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR SOME LANDOWNER INPUT.
>> I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MY BROTHER.
HE COULD NOT MAKE IT [INAUDIBLE] SO I'M HEAR TO REPRESENT HIM
>> WHAT ARE THE WISHES OF THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE JUST PRESENTING INFORMATION.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, COMMISSIONER, LIVE ON TRIBUTARIES DITCHES TO CONNECT TO THIS DITCH, CORRECT? MAYBE THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE TO LEARN WHAT'S HAPPENING, I'M GUESSING.
>> MR. NAVARRO, DID YOU WANT TO SAY?
>> JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM, YOUR BROTHER, MR. HIPPERT IS AMENABLE TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.
>> BECAUSE HE'S NOT AROUND MUCH, I'M PRETTY MUCH BEING IN [INAUDIBLE] THE DRIVEWAY MOVING WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION.
SORRY, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE DRAINING DRAINAGE [INAUDIBLE] WATER.
IT'S GRAPPLED DOWNWARDS DOWN BY THE CORRECT.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP WASHING OFF AND WASHING OUT.
>> WHO WOULD BEAR THAT COST, MR. GREENWOOD?
>> THE REPAIR COST OF ANY OF THESE ITEMS? WHO WOULD BEAR THAT COST?
>> THE BAFFIN PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE DITCH SYSTEM ANALYSIS WHICH DITCHES IT UPSTREAM, THAT DUMPS INTO 83.
THEY PAY AN OUTLET FEE, AND SO SOME OF THESE EXPENSES WILL BE SPREAD. SOME OF THAT.
>> WOULD BE, CORRECT? THERE IS THAT THE EXTENT OF YOUR REPORT TO US HERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME?
>> ARE THERE ANY FOLKS WHO'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED? WELL, WE'D ASKED YOU TO DO IS COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND STATE OR COMMENT.
>> THE SEAT'S HOT. IT'S ALL WARMED UP, READY TO GO.
>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME TODAY.
I LIVE IN SECTION 36 OF PORTLAND TOWNSHIP.
MY ADDRESS IS 45318 551ST AVENUE.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN WORK DONE BEFORE TO THIS PROPERTY.
FOR OUR FAMILY AND FOR OUR FAMILY FARM, WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO MEET WITH SOMEBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE RECONCILED BECAUSE THE NICOLLET COUNTY BEACON, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS ABLE TO SHOW NICOLLET COUNTY BEACON TO THE COMMISSIONERS, IS SHOWING THAT THE COUNTY DRAINAGE TILE ON COUNTY DRAINAGE DITCH 81 GOES INTO OUR PROPERTY, IT DOES NOT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IT'S REDRAWN OR LOOKED AT CLOSER BEFORE THE ASSESSMENT IS DONE AND BEFORE EVERYTHING IS FINALIZED BECAUSE I AM AN APPRAISER, I HAVE ACCESS TO MAPS.
AND LOOKING AT THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, WE FEEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE UNFAIRLY ASSESSED.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, WE ARE PROPERTY TAXPAYERS AND MY HUSBAND'S PRESENT IN THE TOWNSHIP BOARD, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP NICOLLET COUNTY VIABLE, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WE DON T THINK SOMETHING'S RIGHT HERE.
I DO HAVE A VARIETY OF DRAINAGE TILE MAPS ALONG AND ALSO NICOLLET COUNTY BEACON.
IS SOMEONE ABLE TO BRING THAT UP FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, A MAP FROM BEACON? OR DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY PAPER COPY?
>> ARE YOUR QUESTIONS RELATED TO COUNTY DITCH 81?
>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE RECEIVED A LETTER AND WE MAY BE ASSESSED.
>> YES. RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS, ALTHOUGH COUNTY DITCH 38A AND COUNTY DITCH 81 DRAIN INTO 83, WE WILL BE ASSESSED AND WE ARE EFFECTED, LANDOWNERS.
>> MR. CHAIR, IF I MIGHT HAVE MISREAD, THANK YOU.
I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY HAVE TWO ISSUES HERE.
WHEN WE HAVE THE DO WE DO A, B OR STORE 1,2 OR 3, AND THEN WHO PAYS? I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING MORE OF THE SECOND HALF.
I AM VERY THANKFUL THAT MR. HIPPERT IS ABLE TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY ON BEING APPRAISER.
I HAVE SEEN THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH OTHER PEOPLE OR WITH THE COUNTY OFFICIALS.
I DO ASK THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TAKE
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THE TIME OR THE COUNTIES TAKE THEIR TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE CORRECTLY AND FAIRLY AND THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.AT SOME POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE LINES ARE PROBABLY DRAWN AND BEACON COUNTY DITCH TILES ARE PROPERLY FOUND.
I DID CONFIRM WITH SOME NEIGHBORS THE SAME ISSUE, HE'S KNOWN AS TO JUST WELL, THAT BEACON IS OFF A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S ALL THAT I REALLY HAVE TO SAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY TO VISIT WITH ABOUT THIS BEFORE IT GOES ANY FURTHER.
>> RIGHT. I'M LOOKING AT BEACON RIGHT NOW.
>> DO YOU NEED A PERSONAL ID NUMBER?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT MISCOPE, IT IS POINTING TO HERSELF AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM SAYING SHE'S THE PERSON TO TALK TO.
>> VERY GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS.
>> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY HERE THIS MORNING ON THE IDEAS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> I'M PATT NELSON AT 57063 BROOKE VIEW LANE ON THE CORN DEVELOPMENT THERE, I OWN NINE ACRES UP IN THERE.
BUT I'M ON THE RECEIVING END OF THE WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM GOING THROUGH HERMAN CREEK DOWN TO THE RIVER.
BUT I WASN'T NOTIFIED OF THIS MEETING AND I WAS WONDERING WHY PEOPLE ON THAT END, THEY ARE AFFECTED BY THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN WASHED OUT DOWN BELOW.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PICTURES HERE AND THAT'S HOW HERMAN CREEK IS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE BECAUSE THE INCREASED WATER FLOW.
BUT BEING ON THAT END, NOT BEING PART OF THE TILE DITCH SYSTEM, I WASN'T NOTIFIED OF ANY OF THIS NOR WERE ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS.
A LOT OF MY HILLSIDE PROPERTY HAS BEEN WASHED OUT BY THE CREEK JUST BECAUSE IT VARIES WITH A HEAVY RAIN. IT GOES UP.
YOU GO FROM WALKING ACROSS THE CREEK IN KNEE BOOTS TO NEEDING CHEST WAITERS IN AREAS.
BUT A LOT OF TREES HAVE FALLEN AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY DONE ON THE CREEK TO THE RIVER, THAT WHOLE AREA BELOW US.
BECAUSE OUR HOUSES AND BUILDINGS ARE RIGHT UP ABOVE THERE.
ANY EROSION CAUSED BY EXCESS WATER IN THE CREEK SYSTEM IS AFFECTING US AND THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN.
>> [OVERLAPPING] CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION?
>> IF I MAY ASK A QUICK QUESTION AND MAYBE THAT WILL SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS.
IT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR EITHER NATE OR.
WITH THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL WATER OR ANY CHANGE TO WHAT WATER IS BEING ADDED TO THE CREEK OR TAKEN FROM THE CREEK.
THIS IS STRICTLY TO MOVE THE ROAD BACK SO THE ROAD DOESN'T WASH AWAY.
>> YEAH, I WASN'T SURE ABOUT THE REASONING FOR THE DITCH IF IT WAS TO INCREASE FLOW BECAUSE THE DITCHES WEREN'T GOING DOWN FAST ENOUGH OR.
>> THIS IS NOT PROPOSED, IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO INCREASE CAPACITY OF THE DITCH SYSTEM.
THIS IS PURELY WHAT WE CONSIDER A MAINTENANCE REPAIR.
> IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE DRAINAGE ON THE ACTUAL DITCH SYSTEM?
>> NO. WHY YOU AND YOUR ADJOINING NEIGHBORS WEREN'T NOTIFIED IS BECAUSE YOU AREN'T IN THE DITCH SYSTEM OR UP IN THE FIELD PROPERTY OWNERS THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T GET A DIRECT EMAIL ABOUT THIS.
>> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. BUT WE'RE AFFECTED BY ANYTHING GOING INTO THAT DITCH.
>> YOU GET INCREASED TILE SIZES GOING INTO THAT DITCH OR INCREASED TILES FOR DRAINAGE FOR PATTERN TILING OR WHATNOT.
IT'S ALL COMING DOWN AND WE'RE AT THE END OF THE RUN.
>> IT'S WHEN LANDOWNERS PETITION FOR AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THAT THROUGH THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THE ENGINEER'S REPORT HAS TO TOUCH ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF INCREASED FLOWS AND WHATNOT THE [INAUDIBLE] MP SAY, VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES ALL WEIGH IN ON THAT PROCESS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S REQUIREMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THAT TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE THINGS BETTER FOR DOWNSTREAM PLANE.
>> JUST OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS IT'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE DOWN THERE AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF VOLUME OF WATER GOING THROUGH
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THAT CREEK SYSTEM AND IT'S ERODING THE HILLSIDES.I GOT BIG TREES THAT ARE FALLEN OVER THE CREEK BECAUSE THEY'RE WASHED OUT.
IT'S LIKE I'M PAYING THE PRICE ON MY PROPERTY FOR WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING UP ON TOP AND I GOT NO SAY IN THE MATTER.
BECAUSE I PUT UP A NEW SHOP FIVE-YEARS AGO UP ON TOP, AND I HAD TO BE 200 FEET FROM THE CREEK.
WELL, THAT 200 FEET PROBABLY AIN'T 200 FEET ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT CREEK IS ERODING THE HILLSIDE AWAY.
>> OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WE'VE HAD SOME MAJOR PLENTY OF EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THREE OR FOUR [INAUDIBLE] EVENTS AND SEVERAL FEDERAL HIGHWAY DISASTER REPAIRING DAMAGE FROM THESE MAJOR FLOOD EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
THAT'S DEFINITELY CONTRIBUTING TO ALL LIVING BEINGS THROUGHOUT AN EQUAL.
>> THAT AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER DRAINING OUT AT FIELDS AND WHATNOT INTO THE SYSTEM.
I MEAN TO SAY THAT'S NOT A CAUSE, IT WOULD BE FOOLISH.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US ON THE END ROUTE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE NOTIFIED ABOUT BECAUSE I TALKED TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT TOO AND I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING LAST WEEK AND NONE OF THEM KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE INPUT ON, BECAUSE WE'RE GIVEN THE IMPACT OF ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS, AND IT AFFECTS US.
THAT STUFF WHEN YOU GET LAST MINUTE, NOTICE IF YOU WORK FULL-TIME AND TO GET OFF AT 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO COME TO A MEETING ABOUT SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE INCLUDED.
>> MR. GREEN THERE WASN'T NOTICE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE WATER FLOW.
>> NO, AND BEING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WITHIN THE DITCH SYSTEM AND A BENEFITING PROPERTY THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON WHY THEY DON'T RECEIVE A NOTICE.
>> WELL, THAT'S MY CONCERN. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MR. NELSON. APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER RESIDENTS WHO'D LIKE TO COME BEFORE THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING?
>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
>> CODY REIGHNHART, 44211, 47, NEW HOME.
WE FARM ABOVE THE HILL TOO, SO WE USE THE DITCH AND STUFF BUT I JUST CAME IN LATE.
MAYBE IT WAS TOUCHED ON A LITTLE MORE, BUT.
YOU MENTIONED HOW SOME OF THE COST WILL BE ASSESSED THROUGH THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE TEAM.
COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE MORE LIKE WHAT'S SOME OF THE COSTS OR AS A FARMER ON THE DITCH WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR?
>> OH BOY, WE DON'T HAVE A DETAILED BREAKDOWN.
>> IN GENERAL, HOW DOES IT WORK? SOME IS IT A PERCENTAGE? WHAT SOME YOU KNOW THAT ALL THE COST.
>> JACKIE, DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIGH LEVEL?
>> I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER THAN YOU GUYS PROBABLY ARE, BUT IN GENERAL, YOU MUST HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THIS IS GETTING PAID.
>> YOU'RE ON THE AB3 DITCH, THE MAIN DITCH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> OH, YOU'RE IN 81 PAIN AND OUTLET FEED.
WELL, I ACTUALLY JUST GRABBED THAT RE-DETERMINATION.
IF YOU RECALL, 81 WAS REDETERMINED BACK IN 2018.
THAT'S WHEN YOUR BENEFITS WERE DETERMINED AND THOSE BENEFITS WERE IMPORTANT FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
SO 81 HAS A 2% OUTLET BENEFIT INTO 83.
IF THERE'S A 10,000 DOLLAR PROJECT, WHAT IS THAT? 200 DOLLARS? GET SPREAD TO ALL THE OWNERS ON 81 BY YOUR BENEFITS WHICH WOULD BE EVEN LESS.
EIGHTY ONE HAS AN OUTLET BENEFIT, BUT A VERY SMALL OUTLET BENEFIT.
>> PERFECT. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.
>> [NOISE] THANK YOU. I JUST WAS CURIOUS HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN FROM 83 YEARS IS GOING TO BE TAKING HONESTLY OFF THE BAT THEN.
>> THE OTHER FOLKS WISHING TO APPEAR BEFORE THE DRAINAGE AUTHORITY WITH ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? I'LL ASK, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR?
>> JEFF CLEANER, 579360USI 14.
I JUST LANDED JUST UPSTREAM FROM WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M JUST WONDERING ON THE OPTION FOR MOVING TO DRIVE AWAY.
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HE MOVED THE DRIVEWAY, WHAT'S GOING TO KEEP THE DITCH FROM ERODING MORE? FIVE, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE? ARE WE GOING TO MOVE IT AGAIN OR WHAT IS BEHIND MOVING [NOISE] DRIVEWAY, PARDON?>> WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME SNIP AMOUNT OF TIME OUT OF IT.
THIS DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN IN YOUR PREMISES, THE DIGITAL ESTABLISHED YEAR.
IT'S TAKEN THAT MANY YEARS FOR WHEN YOU GET THIS CLOSE AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE AT AND HERE 75-125 BY ANOTHER CHUNK OF YEARS.
>> HOW MANY YEARS, HE FIGURED THAT COULD BE?
>> I DON'T KNOW POTENTIALLY ESTABLISH THE TIME IT'S GETTING HERE NOW WE'RE TALKING 67 YEARS.
>> BUT THAT'S ALL DIFFERENT ALTHOUGH I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING THAT'S.
>> YEAH. I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE PERFECT ANSWER FOR ME.
>> OR IS THERE ANY ANYTHING IN THERE TO MAYBE SLOW IT DOWN EVEN TO ADD TO THAT ROAD SIDE OR SOMETHING THAT.
>> WELL, THEN WE'RE RESTRICTING FLOW IN THAT HOUSE.
>> I MEAN, JUST, NOT TOO RESTRICTIVE, BUT JUST MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE AGAIN.
>> IF WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE JUST A 10-YEAR SOLUTION, WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE RECOMMENDED.
>> BUT I CAN'T DO THE DEFENDANT OR STAY AWAY, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER.
>> ALTHOUGH ONE MORE THING [OVERLAPPING]
>> LET'S SAY WITH THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE THE RIP ROUTE OPTIONS.
PROBABLY THE BEST OPTION FOR REALLY HARD AREN'T WEARING THAT.
THERE'S EVEN CONCERNS FROM MY STANDPOINT IF A SEEPAGE TILE WILL COMPLETELY GRAB ENOUGH FOR THE WATER TO DRY THAT UP ENOUGH TO REALLY STABILIZE THOSE SOILS ON THE BANK THAT WHEN THE WATER RISES AND RUNS THROUGH THERE FAST AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT OUT.
YOU'RE ALMOST MAYBE LOOKING AT A COMBINATION TILE AND THE GROUND BUT OF COURSE YOUR EXPENSE GOES UP.
>> AGAIN. WHAT REALLY MAKES OPTION ONE ATTRACTIVE IS THAT WE HAVE A WILLING PROPERTY OWNER TO GIVE UP HIS LAND, MOVE THE DRIVEWAY OVER.
WE'VE HAD AN INSTANCE IN LAFAYETTE TOWNSHIP CERTAINLY ATE A VERY DEEP DITCH PARALLELS, I WONDER TOWNSHIP ROADS FOR A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE AND WE WERE IN THE SAME ISSUES WITH THAT DENSE WITH A DIFFERENT BANK FAILING AND SLOUGHING THEM.
BUT IN THAT INSTANCE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE REROUTING TOWNSHIP ROAD.
JOINING LANDLORD PRIME FARMLAND WAS NOT INTERESTED IN GIVING UP SNIPPED IN ACREAGE SMOOTH TOWNSHIP ROAD AND OUR OPTIONS REALLY AT THAT POINT, WHERE DO WE PUT IN A SEEPAGE TILE? SEE IF WE CAN DRY UP THE SUBSURFACE WATER AND WORKING THROUGH OR DO WE DO A HEART ARTERY RIP RAP OPTION TO STABILIZE THAT BANK TO KEEP THE TOWNSHIP ROAD IN IT'S PLACE.
THAT DITCH WAS SO DEEP SEEPAGE TILE, WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A VIABLE OPTION.
WE ENDED UP PART OUR MARINA SUBMISSION LINK FOR THAT DISH WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO BABBLE THAT JUST EASILY MOVE THE TOWNSHIP ROAD FURTHER,.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MAYBE TO HELP MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GONNA BE ASKED TODAY TO RECORD TO CHOOSE AN OPTION, CORRECT, MR. GREENWOOD?
>> YEAH. I LEFT IT OPEN-ENDED TO HEAR FROM LANDOWNERS ON FOX AND WHATNOT.
BUT RIGHT AT THIS PLANE, OPTION 1, MY STANDPOINT, IT SEEMS OUR BEST THING FOR THE YEAH.
>> MR. JACK, AT SOME POINT AT THAT PURPLE POINT, THE PROCESS, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO DO OPTION 1, WHICH IF THAT HELPS LANDOWNERS DECIDE WHETHER THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE.
THAT'S WHAT THE PROCESSES IS GOING TO BE THIS MORNING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE CHOOSING AN OPTION.
I WOULD THINK AT LEAST OPTION 1 IS GOING TO BE ON THE FRONT END OF THIS DISCUSSION.
>> BUT YES, I WAS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS ON THE PRELIMINARY WITHOUT ANY SOLID EVIDENCE TO SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF THERE WAS A MOTION ON THIS TABLE TO BRING FORWARD AN IDEA, THE CHAIR WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
>> I WILL UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT OPTIONS 2 OR 3, I WILL MOVE THAT THE COUNTY PURSUE OPTION 1 RELOCATION TO THE DRIVEWAY.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR OPTION 1 IS [OVERLAPPING].
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>> THE MOTIONS ROCK THE ONES IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?
>> I'LL SECOND THAT TO GET CONVERSATION GOING.
WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THIS DRAINAGE AUTHORITY IS CONSIDERING OPTION 1.
EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE $59,000 AND DOLLAR OPTION? CORRECT. IS THAT THE NUMBER?
>> THAT'S THE NUMBER. WE WILL RETURN TO HEARING IF THERE ARE FOLKS WHO WANT TO OFFER AN OPINION ON THIS OPTION THAT THIS BOARD IS LOOKING AT.
BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? WE HAD A MOTION AND SECOND, WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE YET.
ANYBODY LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WE CAN HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 57639420 SECOND STREET, NORM, MINNESOTA, LAFAYETTE TOWNSHIP.
>> I THINK THE OPTION OF MOVING THAT DRIVEWAY AS LONG AS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO GO FOR THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THEM UP ON THAT.
YOU CAN ALWAYS LOOK INTO THE FUTURE AND KNOW EXACTLY HOW EVERYTHING'S GOING TO TURN OUT.
GOODNESS, LOOK AT THE WEATHER WE'VE HAD.
PERHAPS WE WANT TO DO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, BUT THEY THINK BY SHOW OF HANDS OR SOMETHING. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MS. BRAKEMAN. NOW, WE'LL JUST HEAR PEOPLE'S VOICES.
WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE YOUR VOTE.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD?
EFFORT AND IT'S THE HIPPERT FARM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THAT HYMEN CRICK BEFORE IT WAS TURNED INTO A COUNTY DITCHES BEDNAR.
SINCE I'VE KNOWN IT, MY GRANDPARENTS SETTLED IT IN 1894, 1898 SOMEPLACE IN THERE THAT CRICK'S BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT ROAD JUST 10 FEET.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THAT ROAD AT ABOUT 100 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TELEPHONE POLES THAT ARE THERE.
IT'LL TAKE ANOTHER AT LEAST 100 YEARS BEFORE PROBABLY GETS TO WHERE IF AT ALL, TO RELOCATE THAT DRIVEWAY AGAIN.
I STILL THINK OPTION A IS THE BEST RESULT OF THIS WHOLE SITUATION, SO AND I WANT TO THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. MR. HIPPERT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY LANDOWNERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK THIS MORNING? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US? NOW AS A BOARD MEETING TO DISCUSS HOW DOES THE BOARD FEEL ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER 1, THE $59,000 OPTION.
>> EXACTLY WHAT MR. JASON, WHAT DO YOU WANT?
ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS TO THE MOTION? THAT'S ANOTHER COMMENT.
>> I GOT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, LANDOWNERS HAD MENTIONED SOME CONSIDER HOW LONG WOULD THE OPTION A AND OPTION LAST, ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT THIS, MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY AS IF THE STREAM CONTINUES TO ENCROACH AND A SEVERAL CERTAIN PLACES ALONG RELOCATED DRIVEWAY IN THE FUTURE.
THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE BETWEEN OPTION 1 AND OPTION 3.
OPTION 3 BEING THE RIP RAP REPAIRS, ALMOST $110,000 THAT THERE WOULD BE MONEY.
BUT WE'RE SAVING BY DOING AN OPTION A, WE COULD ALWAYS COME IN AND DO ADDITIONAL RIP RAP SPOT REPAIRS IF IT STARTS TO ENCROACH.
MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY TO THINK ABOUT MAYBE RELIEVING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT OPTION A ONLY LESS THAN 10 YEARS OR 15 YEARS.
>> BOARD MEMBERS, WE'VE HEARD THE FOLKS SPEAK ABOUT IT.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION.
>> CALL THE QUESTION. MR. CHAIR.
>> I GOT ONE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR EMOTION THAT IS TO AUTHORIZE MYSELF TO SIGN HOUSTON ENGINEERING'S UPDATED PROPOSAL TO THE PLAINTIFFS IN SPECIFICATION DOCUMENTS FOR DOING THIS WORK.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO
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EXECUTE ALL AGREEMENTS DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD.>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OF COMMISSIONERS, IS THAT CAN YOU SATURDAY?
>> ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR US, MR. GREENWOOD?
>> THE BOARD HAS ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR US.
>> WE'RE JUST GLAD TO SEE THE SNOW HAS EVAPORATED.
WE'LL ADMINISTRATOR, I HOPE YOU GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO MS. COPPA.
>> THANK YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.